BBC iPlayer Linux screenshots

[ Monday, 17 December 2007, michuk ]

BBC iPlayer after a lot of complains, petitions, talks and discussions is finally available for GNU/Linux as beta. I took a look at what BBC has prepared and in general I have to say: good job!

Opposed to the alpha versions I’ve seen, the video quality is very good and the Flash player does not cause any problems under GNU/Linux (I tested it on the latest version of Adobe Flash on Ubuntu 7.10 Gutsy Gibbon running Firefox and GNOME),

The only thing that the Linux version does not support is the possibility to download the video. This is due to DRM technology used to prevent storing the files for more than 7 days.

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BBC Player — main window

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TV programme for today

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Watching BBC World News

Unfortunately, the BBC iPlayer is currently available only to the British citizens (i.e. people connecting to the Intertent from IP addresses recognized as British). I don’t know of any plans to make the service available to other countries/whole world.

You can browse the BBC iPlayer programs on the official iPlayer website.

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fold this thread Oli  Monday, 17 December 2007 o godz. 7:30 pm #  Add karma Subtract karma  --1

We, as British citizens pay about $300 a year per TV-watching household for a TV License which partially pays for the running of BBC. In exchange, we get no advertisements and some of the world’s best media programming.

My point is, why would the BBC open this up to people not paying for it?

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fold this thread michuk  Monday, 17 December 2007 o godz. 8:32 pm #  Add karma Subtract karma  +2

I don’t pay for BBC (I don’t own a TV-set) still I’m allowed to watch BBC from here in Coventry. Why not allow the same to other people around the world, just to give a good example?

fold this thread Oli  Tuesday, 18 December 2007 o godz. 12:13 am #  Add karma Subtract karma  --3

Well the vast number of people are. A lot of funding also comes from the government (via tax)… Or are you going to tell me you’re not a tax-payer either? My point is, the vast majority of people that use the service fall into these categories and have therefore earned the right to watch BBC programming.

If people outside the country want the content, they have to pay for it, usually indirectly through third-party companies that buy the rights off the BBC and sub-let them on.

Or should the British pay for the entire world’s TV? Perhaps when the rest of the world returns the favour.

fold this thread michuk  Tuesday, 18 December 2007 o godz. 1:24 am #  Add karma Subtract karma  --1

I perfectly understand your reasoning. Still I claim that limiting the physical area where you can use some Internet service it kind of an “old-days” idea.

And what about the British citizens, tax payers, on a work trip? Shouldn’t they be able to use the service? Or perhaps BBC should introduce some kind of tokens so that they can still watch it after entering some magic password?

Just like DRM, people will find a way around it. It is just not in line with the trends that the information on the Internet should be open and available to everyone.

Still a great move that it’s finally available for Linux, of course.

fold this thread daz  Wednesday, 19 December 2007 o godz. 11:14 am #  Add karma Subtract karma  +1

British pay for the entire world’s TV

point one
Who says anyone else in the world want to even watch the BBC even if it is totally free???

The second point is the WORLD Service has been free for how long… I don’t see you complaining about this…

My third point is I dont see why “we” need a tax to use a TV… I dont pay a yearly tax to use most other man made inventions like a computer or a lawn mower.

If I buy a TV for a £100 I need to spend well over £1000.00 over ten years just to be able to turn it on.

fold this thread SPM  Wednesday, 19 December 2007 o godz. 6:44 pm #  Add karma Subtract karma  +0

Exactly. If TV owners have to pay a license fee for owning a TV, even if they never watch the BBC, why shouldn’t say MS Windows owners pay a fair share of the BBS license fee?

I think that the only fair way of doing this is for the BBC to agree with their authors/copyright holders to alloe free (no DRM broadcast) worldwide with Flash media at low resolution, and limit high resolution BBC broadcasts to TV broadcast in UK and to subscription cable and satellite channels worldwide.

fold this thread David  Thursday, 25 September 2008 o godz. 12:27 am #  Add karma Subtract karma  +0

If you are watching live tv on your PC you should be paying a license fee. You are breaking the law if you are not.

fold this thread vm  Monday, 17 December 2007 o godz. 11:16 pm #  Add karma Subtract karma  +0

Watching programming via the iplayer is not the same as watching telly. Besides, they can include ads for iplayer viewers who are non-paying. Strip the ads for those who subscribe – folks overseas should be able to subscribe to this service.

This has all been done before.

fold this thread Oli  Tuesday, 18 December 2007 o godz. 12:17 am #  Add karma Subtract karma  +2

I see the merit of such an idea, but tracking down and keeping track of local advertisers for each country around the world would be a nightmare. You have to remember that the BBC has virtually no experience being an advertising publisher and expanding to handle this venture would be costly.

Not to mention that that would drive people back to less-than-legal sources where there are no adverts, making a big wasted investment in setting it all up.

fold this thread Anonanoonoo  Wednesday, 19 December 2007 o godz. 12:07 am #  Add karma Subtract karma  --9

“I see the merit of such an idea”

You pretentious prick! As if you have any influence on the BBC! Crawl back into your hole, little man.

fold this thread chemicalscum  Wednesday, 19 December 2007 o godz. 1:36 am #  Add karma Subtract karma  --5

Yes he is a “pretentious prick!” which means he is probably the DG of the Beeb

fold this thread diin  Friday, 14 March 2008 o godz. 5:31 pm #  Add karma Subtract karma  +2

But he’s right.

fold this thread marc  Tuesday, 27 May 2008 o godz. 8:35 pm #  Add karma Subtract karma  --1

well the bbc seem well able to advertise their reporters as daredevil world globetrotters quite happily between news broadcasts and cnn amongst others manage to find global companies and and of course charities (using our donations) to pay for their channel services. and so what if someone gets to watch the bbc outside uk, it just shows the world how great our tv is.

fold this thread lala  Tuesday, 18 August 2009 o godz. 9:41 am #  Add karma Subtract karma  +0

Not really. You could employ Google to do it. It’d be something like we see on Facebook every day.

fold this thread Sid  Tuesday, 18 December 2007 o godz. 3:26 am #  Add karma Subtract karma  +0

Why not BBC open up its “best media programming” for a reasonable prize to other people of the world through iplayer ?

fold this thread someone  Tuesday, 18 December 2007 o godz. 10:21 am #  Add karma Subtract karma  +2

Well they do offer up their programms through dvd sales and such.

fold this thread M A A Mehkri  Tuesday, 18 December 2007 o godz. 11:38 am #  Add karma Subtract karma  +1

I do understand that Brits pay Television Tax. However BBC is a paid service for me in India through Cable and through satellite TV. Therefore i would as a paying customer expect the same service and privileges as Brits.

fold this thread SPM  Wednesday, 19 December 2007 o godz. 6:36 pm #  Add karma Subtract karma  +2

Do you pay the same annual amount as the Brits? I doubt it.

fold this thread michuk  Wednesday, 19 December 2007 o godz. 6:51 pm #  Add karma Subtract karma  +2

@SPM: what’s the differece how much he pays for the service? BBC decided to sell it to him for the price they selected. I very much doubt it that anyone pays for BBC as much as the Brits, just because the salaries in Britain are one of the biggest in the world, and so are the prices.

fold this thread e  Tuesday, 18 December 2007 o godz. 12:24 pm #  Add karma Subtract karma  --1


Good for you,

Now we know why you are an island.

A continental… the way – the internet is free for all the world, from penguins in Antartica to elephants in Africa – maybe you were not aware.

fold this thread GreyCells  Wednesday, 19 December 2007 o godz. 10:13 am #  Add karma Subtract karma  --1 the way – the internet is free for all the world, from penguins in Antartica to elephants in Africa – maybe you were not aware.

The internet is free? Since when? How much do you pay your ISP? How much coffee does the average punter drink whilst surfing at an internet cafe? There is no such thing as free – it is just an illusion for those poor souls who buy the marketing wholesale and don’t care to read the labels.

Even if you’re talking about freedom, that too is an absurd notion. The great firewall of China, ISP proxy servers, packet filtering, MPAA, RIAA – the list of institutions that impinge on your internet ‘freedom’ is enormous.

Oh – you meant the content is free? Yeah – right…

fold this thread Moz Verdent  Friday, 29 February 2008 o godz. 12:36 am #  Add karma Subtract karma  +0

This is an island because it is surrounded by water, actually.
Anyone (and that is most of us)who have seen telly in other countries will be aware of just how dire it can be. I can’t see what anyone has to lose by allowing, let’s say, Mexican people to watch at low bitrate so as not to clog the pipes.
Moz (Licence Fee payer)

fold this thread Martin Bartlett  Thursday, 17 January 2008 o godz. 12:21 pm #  Add karma Subtract karma  +0

As a poor deprived British Citizen living in France, and, consequently, not paying British Tax or the TV license fee, I agree in ONE sense – I really shouldn’t expect to be able to use iPlayer. But the service is also available to anyone with a UK IP address who doesn’t own a television – and so doesn’t pay a TV license, as was my case when I most recently DID live in the UK (i.e. such weirdos exist :-) ), and not ALL BBC funding comes from the fee.

fold this thread lebourg  Thursday, 20 March 2008 o godz. 8:00 pm #  Add karma Subtract karma  +0

As a poor British Subject living in France, I have arranged a VPN link with a friend in the UK with 8MB B/B.

My french house just looks like part of his home network.

The beeb have no idea!

fold this thread Coffee  Sunday, 10 February 2008 o godz. 4:30 pm #  Add karma Subtract karma  --2

There’s no such thing as a British citizen. The British are “subjects”. And if they don’t behave, they’re imprisoned at “Her Majesty’s pleasure” … :-)

fold this thread lala  Tuesday, 18 August 2009 o godz. 9:46 am #  Add karma Subtract karma  +0

Maybe it could open up some of the content, like the news, and put up other content for a small fee. As an English language student I find there is not much sophisticated British content out there, except if local TV channels buy some from the BBC.

Besides, if you pay 300 Pounds a year, why couldn’t others also pay let’s say 15 Pounds to see a season of “League of Gentlemen” et. al. online or get downloads of the same?

Sometimes it is also quite hard to even get DVD releases of BBC series in certain countries.

fold this thread Bob Waddington  Monday, 17 December 2007 o godz. 10:25 pm #  Add karma Subtract karma  +1

The motto of the BBC is “Nation shall speak peace unto nation.”

Unto just the one nation, then?

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fold this thread Martin  Tuesday, 18 December 2007 o godz. 1:59 pm #  Add karma Subtract karma  +0

The BBC has a remit for educating the world about British affairs and British culture. This is one of the things that gets it money from the government.

Far from being able to fufill this remit they are gagged and bound by greedy production companies, writers and other creative people who hold all the rights.

It’s a shame because the world is crying out for British culture instead of the American one their always forced fed. Once a program has been made, it does not cost anything to give it to everyone in the world.

fold this thread a  Tuesday, 18 December 2007 o godz. 2:43 pm #  Add karma Subtract karma  +1

You can keep your British culture we have ours, I think it is the same for other countries.

fold this thread Peter  Tuesday, 18 December 2007 o godz. 6:28 pm #  Add karma Subtract karma  +0

It’s the English speaking to Scots, Welsh and Irish…

fold this thread Stepelevich  Tuesday, 18 December 2007 o godz. 3:39 pm #  Add karma Subtract karma  +1

There’s a fascinating interview with the BBC’s Future Media and Technology Director about DRM, Linux and the iPlayer over at Groklaw:

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fold this thread Mark  Wednesday, 19 December 2007 o godz. 9:16 pm #  Add karma Subtract karma  +0

Duh! The British are not hard done by just because we pay license fees and other people get to watch it for free. It’s called (radical) capitalism. We cannot mock religions when we pay to create these things. Collection tray anyone?

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fold this thread Klaas.  Thursday, 20 December 2007 o godz. 8:58 am #  Add karma Subtract karma  +0

Well, I would gladly pay to be able to watch the BBC
with iPlayer. And I really hope that it will be made available on a subscription basis which would generate some extra income so that our British friends can pay less. No commercials, the best quality TV, what more couldyou wish for?

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fold this thread Tim Williams  Thursday, 20 December 2007 o godz. 12:54 pm #  Add karma Subtract karma  +0

It seems to me the situation here is a bit inconsistent and the BBC are missing out on a good revenue opportunity.

1) UK residents with no TV licence are now effectively getting BBC programming for free while those of us who have a TV still have to pay.

2) Non-UK residents and expats who are prepared to pay for the service are not being given the opportunity.

There is a simple solution to this, open the service up to all IP addresses and then require people to register for the iPlayer by typing in a code which can be supplied with your TV licence. Then allow non-uk residents/expats who want the service to buy a TV licence.

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fold this thread Derek  Thursday, 20 December 2007 o godz. 5:30 pm #  Add karma Subtract karma  +0

In other countries the tv license is for any device that uses (or can use) airwaves, it’s not for the actual content.

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fold this thread Sarah  Saturday, 5 January 2008 o godz. 3:31 am #  Add karma Subtract karma  --1

And I quote the iPlayer website.

“BBC iPlayer is only avaliable for Windows”

That’s the message I get when I try to watch New Tricks, not download, just watch in their little web app.

So no, iPlayer doesn’t work in Linux.

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fold this thread Mark  Friday, 11 January 2008 o godz. 8:00 am #  Add karma Subtract karma  +0

Sarah, iPlayer launched a Flash based version a while ago so it does now work on Linux (I run it most days on my Linux laptop). The key restriction is that you cannot download the programs for offline viewing.

fold this thread Sarah  Thursday, 14 February 2008 o godz. 12:21 am #  Add karma Subtract karma  +0

Mark, I realise that the Flash player “should” work in Linux but it is for me very hit and miss. Sometimes it thinks your trying to download, sometimes it just locks FF up and generally misbehaves.

To be perfectly honest, when it does work and I hit full screen, the quality is utterly attrocius compared to “other sources”… I do honestly expect better of an organization hoovering my purse regardless of me wanting to watch their content or not.

But the license fee is a different debate for a different time.

fold this thread Lewis  Wednesday, 16 January 2008 o godz. 9:32 am #  Add karma Subtract karma  --2

Please, let me pay for the service from outside the UK.
It’s easy.

IF (outside the UK) THEN

The technology side of things is pretty simple.


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fold this thread Bob  Sunday, 10 February 2008 o godz. 4:16 am #  Add karma Subtract karma  --2

The BBC should only make the iPlayer available on Windows and OSX. It’s a waste of licence fee money developing a player for Linux thats hardly going to be used by anyone.

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I do understand that Brits pay Television Tax. However BBC is a paid service for me in India through Cable and through satellite TV. Therefore i would as a paying customer expect the same service and privileges as Brits.”"

@M A A Mehkri : I don’t want to sound rude but why do foreigners think they have the right to freeload off the British people? You don’t pay anything towards the BBC(uk) while BBC WORLD is funded through advertising + Government grants, not through satellite or cable subscriptions.

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fold this thread Chris Wyatt  Friday, 22 February 2008 o godz. 5:07 am #  Add karma Subtract karma  --1

They think they have the right because, well, they do have the right. Stupid question.

fold this thread James  Tuesday, 26 February 2008 o godz. 8:47 am #  Add karma Subtract karma  +1


I would certainly PAY for this, if it were available. And don’t say BBC programming is available overseas. I’m in Australia, where we have 3 broadcasters who push out only American junk, and have even stopped with Australian announcers and jumped straight to US ones. Also, I pay $65/mo to access 1 channel of 1990′s BBC programming… so even paying the FULL licence fee would be cheaper!

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fold this thread Per  Tuesday, 4 March 2008 o godz. 10:09 am #  Add karma Subtract karma  +0

Yep, I would gladly pay. Additional revenue for BCC, people around the world could access high quality programs. Difficult to see any drawbacks.

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fold this thread GrahamN  Sunday, 9 March 2008 o godz. 10:53 am #  Add karma Subtract karma  --2

Everyone talks about such high quality BBC programs. Am I missing something? The best drama now comes out of the US – House, West Wing, Law & Order,Shark, etc. The BBC does some _awful_ stodgy costume dramas, and little else of merit (Life on Mars is clearly an exception, but just look at the sequel). I resent paying a TV license to a white, middle-class dominated organisation which from personal experience, I no longer trust, and I’m white and middle class. Lets get rid of the BBC.

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fold this thread Ganz  Tuesday, 8 April 2008 o godz. 1:04 pm #  Add karma Subtract karma  +0

I was out the UK recently and wanted to see a particular episode only to find out that I wasn’t allowed to view as I was outside the UK. What about us fee paying citizens who are abroad either on holiday or business? It was frustrating as I paid towards those BBC programs being made – I own them!

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fold this thread michuk  Wednesday, 9 April 2008 o godz. 11:38 am #  Add karma Subtract karma  +0

Just set up a proxy server at home and use it while abroad.

fold this thread RogerH  Monday, 12 May 2008 o godz. 1:57 pm #  Add karma Subtract karma  --1

A UK proxy is the answer to downloading iplayer programmes if you are outside of the UK but I tried lots of free UK proxies and although some of them work with BBC iplayer some do not and those that do often don’t stay available for long or are very slow. I guess you get what you pay for so now I have signed up to a paid for proxy which works well, is easy to use, reliable and fast. It is only US$7 a month and has other benefits as well. See

fold this thread GG  Saturday, 31 May 2008 o godz. 8:02 am #  Add karma Subtract karma  +0

Yes it is frustrating not to get the BBC abroad, and I’m sure that over time a solutionwill be found for people who have legitimate acces to the programmes.
However your I own it statement is simplistic. Many programmes are bought in and are licensed for transmission in the UK. The licensor sells the same programmes to differnt television networks and their rights are undermined by free access over the internet. The BBC also generates substantial revenues by selling their programmes to other TV networks. This revenue stream could be undermined resulting in either lower programme quality or higher license fees.

There are many other Services that you pay tax for which you cannot receive when abroad. Some of these are probably more importnat than tv services.

fold this thread Simon  Tuesday, 22 April 2008 o godz. 11:43 am #  Add karma Subtract karma  +0

It’s easy to get around if you really wanted to. There are basically hundreds of proxy servers that use a british IP address. You could complain the whole idea is unfair. What about people who don’t have internet in there homes, but do have a TV and pay there licence. They still pay for a service they can’t use and they live and pay towards this.

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fold this thread Dean  Monday, 12 May 2008 o godz. 11:53 am #  Add karma Subtract karma  +0

so i pay all the taxes, licensee fee etc, because my primary address is in the UK…but i cannot happen to access all the bbc services if i happen to be outside of the uk… haven’t people heard of world travel or working abroad, etc… you’ve paid for it.. but just because we don’t like where you are you cant use the service. they should give us some subscription or login services to use what we have HAVE PAID FOR!!!

I know the uk has a strong proportion of the population that just thinks like island people ( just watch the news and mention immigration for example)… but some of us are still be denied the service we have paid for because we don’t always live every second of the year within the UK borders. let alone the extra stealth taxes I’ve have paid, which add up to more than my council tax because I have a non eu citizen wife.. who by the way against the stereotype has lowered her standards of living to join me in the uk… i could go on, but the point is people don’t all live the same way.. and thus the current rules make false assumptions to determine whether you have paid for the service or not.

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fold this thread Simon  Wednesday, 17 September 2008 o godz. 1:15 am #  Add karma Subtract karma  +0

It is possible to watch almost all UK tv outside the British Isles for free or for a very small fee (much less than the licence fee).

Almost all the freeview channels, the catchup and live online services of BBC ITV C4 and Five are available online and of sufficient quality to provide a viewing experience similar to vhs.

When combined with the better p2p apps and subscription to Setanta it is possible to have a package to rival Sky at a fraction of the cost.

The crazy thing is that in the UK all except the Setanta subscription is free so you don’t even need a tv if you’re prepared to accept a slight drop in quality. No tv no licence fee…….except it doesn’t work that way.

You see you don’t need to have a tv to have the capability of receiving tv signals and that is what you pay your licence fee for.

this is from the Licence fee website:

You need a TV Licence to use any television receiving equipment such as a TV set, digital box, DVD or video recorder, PC, laptop or mobile phone to watch or record television programmes as they’re being shown on TV.

If you use a digital box with a hi-fi system or another device that can only be used to produce sounds and can’t display TV programmes, and you don’t install or use any other TV receiving equipment, you don’t need a TV Licence.

In other words even if you don’t have tv equipment, if you have a pc you still need to pay the licence fee. Incidentally you will note that it says nothing about internet access or tv cards, merely that if you have a pc or laptop you have to pay.

Without an internet connection or tv card your pc cannot receive any form of tv. Clearly the tv licence fee has nothing to do with whether or not you actually receive tv signals, simply that you have a piece of equipment that has the potential to receive them.

If you purchase almost any other product from an EU country outside your own you pay the vat of the source country and are not liable for any further tax in your own country. Since all EU countries have a licence fee, why then can you not receive tv programmes from other states under the conditions of your own tv licence fee in the same way as vat?

fold this thread beojan  Saturday, 18 April 2009 o godz. 6:15 pm #  Add karma Subtract karma  --1

“to watch or record television programmes as they’re being shown on TV. ”

That is, you only need a license if you actually use the equipment to watch TV. If you buy a TV and keep it in the shed, you don’t need a license.

fold this thread Spambot  Friday, 18 September 2009 o godz. 10:08 am #  Add karma Subtract karma  +0

Incorrect – the fee is only applicable for watching LIVE tv. Specifically, watching catchup tv over the internet is fine. It even says so on the paperwork. Also, just owning a tv is not sufficient. Get your facts straight before you rant.

/owns a tv
/does not watch tv
/uses iplayer for catchup
/no license & don’t need one

fold this thread Jonathan  Monday, 11 August 2008 o godz. 8:02 pm #  Add karma Subtract karma  +0

Hi I am using running Linux on an ASUS EEE and when I use the radio BBC iplayer I cannot use some of the important functions, like rewind or fast forward. Meaning I have to listen to an entire programme from the beginning, even if I have already hear the beginning. Please help. Thanks

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fold this thread Chris  Thursday, 13 November 2008 o godz. 11:52 pm #  Add karma Subtract karma  +0

Just picking up on the verbage from the BBC licence fee website

“…..PC, laptop or mobile phone to watch or record television programmes as they’re being shown on TV.”

sure the lawyers could have fun with this one, but sounds to me that your device has to be capable of receiving & watching programmes as a live broadcast.

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fold this thread keninmarciac  Sunday, 1 November 2009 o godz. 9:39 pm #  Add karma Subtract karma  +0

It seems no one has mentioned that it is possible to view any non scrambled TV station – BBC ITV , 4 and 5 with a digital receiver pointed at Astra in Europe (+ if big dish is used)for free (same principle as receiving UK radio stations abroad if you have a good aerial and good set)

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