Comments on: Desktop Environments: The Past and The Future http://polishlinux.org/apps/window-managers/desktop-environments-the-past-and-the-future/ All About GNU/Linux and BSD - reviews, comparisons, articles Sat, 22 Nov 2008 04:21:00 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 By: eMBee http://polishlinux.org/apps/window-managers/desktop-environments-the-past-and-the-future/#comment-121818 eMBee Sat, 21 Jun 2008 13:58:22 +0000 http://polishlinux.org/apps/window-managers/desktop-environments-the-past-and-the-future/#comment-121818 aqua is not a window manager! aqua is the whole user interface including scrollbars, menus, buttons, any widget. the window manager affects on the the frame of a window not the widgets inside. aqua is maybe comparable to gtk or qt with a specific theme (but i am not sure about that. i am sure it's not a window manager though.) a window manager is a seperate application that runs indepentently from the actual programs you are using. it manages window placement, movement, resizing, etc. you can see this when a program freezes. you can still move the window, minimize it, etc. on mac os x desktop environment with cocoa/aqua or on windows you can not manage dead windows. so if there is a window manager on those systems, it does not do what a window manager on X11 does. greetings, eMBee. aqua is not a window manager!
aqua is the whole user interface including scrollbars, menus, buttons, any widget. the window manager affects on the the frame of a window not the widgets inside.

aqua is maybe comparable to gtk or qt with a specific theme (but i am not sure about that. i am sure it’s not a window manager though.)

a window manager is a seperate application that runs indepentently from the actual programs you are using. it manages window placement, movement, resizing, etc. you can see this when a program freezes. you can still move the window, minimize it, etc.

on mac os x desktop environment with cocoa/aqua or on windows you can not manage dead windows. so if there is a window manager on those systems, it does not do what a window manager on X11 does.

greetings, eMBee.

]]> By: colonelcrayon http://polishlinux.org/apps/window-managers/desktop-environments-the-past-and-the-future/#comment-121786 colonelcrayon Tue, 17 Jun 2008 22:37:14 +0000 http://polishlinux.org/apps/window-managers/desktop-environments-the-past-and-the-future/#comment-121786 You leave out tiling window managers. I'm always amazed when I see someone try to use anything else. They make so much sense. You leave out tiling window managers. I’m always amazed when I see someone try to use anything else. They make so much sense.

]]> By: damac http://polishlinux.org/apps/window-managers/desktop-environments-the-past-and-the-future/#comment-121768 damac Sat, 14 Jun 2008 17:51:45 +0000 http://polishlinux.org/apps/window-managers/desktop-environments-the-past-and-the-future/#comment-121768 "with a clean desktop available!" -available for what? - if i won look pictures ill go to gallery future of desktop is iGoogle- all kind of useful stuff and no stuff from second paragraph- things like katapult for kde or lounchy for win gona do that job “with a clean desktop available!” -available for what? - if i won look pictures ill go to gallery
future of desktop is iGoogle- all kind of useful stuff

and no stuff from second paragraph- things like katapult for kde or lounchy for win gona do that job

]]> By: bleuget http://polishlinux.org/apps/window-managers/desktop-environments-the-past-and-the-future/#comment-121741 bleuget Thu, 12 Jun 2008 07:23:55 +0000 http://polishlinux.org/apps/window-managers/desktop-environments-the-past-and-the-future/#comment-121741 You DON'T need Klipper running to have Clipboard. Its just limited to one entry at a time. You DON’T need Klipper running to have Clipboard. Its just limited to one entry at a time.

]]> By: Bobby http://polishlinux.org/apps/window-managers/desktop-environments-the-past-and-the-future/#comment-121715 Bobby Tue, 10 Jun 2008 11:11:41 +0000 http://polishlinux.org/apps/window-managers/desktop-environments-the-past-and-the-future/#comment-121715 While I like the thinking behind Symphony/mezzo, I have to admit, I like having everything on one bar, with a clean desktop available! Why not have a two-tiered bar, with app-start on the left, document-start on the right, clock in the center, and systools and trash on either side of the clock? the upper tier of the bar could be the open file notifications and/or system messages... While I like the thinking behind Symphony/mezzo, I have to admit, I like having everything on one bar, with a clean desktop available!

Why not have a two-tiered bar, with app-start on the left, document-start on the right, clock in the center, and systools and trash on either side of the clock? the upper tier of the bar could be the open file notifications and/or system messages…

]]> By: michuk http://polishlinux.org/apps/window-managers/desktop-environments-the-past-and-the-future/#comment-121704 michuk Tue, 10 Jun 2008 07:12:20 +0000 http://polishlinux.org/apps/window-managers/desktop-environments-the-past-and-the-future/#comment-121704 What about Xandros, SLED and other systems that ship lots of proprietary stuff, not just GNU apps? Hell, even Ubuntu ships proprietary drivers and other required blob. How can you call it "GNU' then? You know well that this is only a matter of naming. Ubuntu has all the features of an operating system - a kernel, a collection of apps running in user space. Sure it's a favor of Linux, or -- as you wanna call it -- GNU/Linux. But it may be as well called an operating system on its own. Same for all other distributions, like OpenSolaris or Nexenta, the distributions of Solaris system. What about Xandros, SLED and other systems that ship lots of proprietary stuff, not just GNU apps? Hell, even Ubuntu ships proprietary drivers and other required blob. How can you call it “GNU’ then?

You know well that this is only a matter of naming. Ubuntu has all the features of an operating system - a kernel, a collection of apps running in user space. Sure it’s a favor of Linux, or — as you wanna call it — GNU/Linux. But it may be as well called an operating system on its own. Same for all other distributions, like OpenSolaris or Nexenta, the distributions of Solaris system.

]]> By: tracyanne http://polishlinux.org/apps/window-managers/desktop-environments-the-past-and-the-future/#comment-121701 tracyanne Tue, 10 Jun 2008 02:02:45 +0000 http://polishlinux.org/apps/window-managers/desktop-environments-the-past-and-the-future/#comment-121701 quote: Please read this article GNU/something to get an idea what the author means by “system”, “kernel” and “operating system”. By any definition that is correct, Ubuntu is a distribution of the Gnu/Linux operating system. Ubuntu it is not itself an operating system. It is the collection of applications, and Operating system, that go to make a specific distribution. And like every other Distribution (Mandriva, Red Hat, Fedora, SuSE, Ubuntu, Xandros, Linspire, Mepis Slackware, Knoppix etc) the operating system component is Gnu/Linux. quote: Under most definitions, the Linux kernel itself is an operating system, believe it or not No it is not. It is merely the core of the Gnu/Linux Operating System quote: Please read this article GNU/something to get an idea what the author means by “system”, “kernel” and “operating system”.

By any definition that is correct, Ubuntu is a distribution of the Gnu/Linux operating system. Ubuntu it is not itself an operating system. It is the collection of applications, and Operating system, that go to make a specific distribution. And like every other Distribution (Mandriva, Red Hat, Fedora, SuSE, Ubuntu, Xandros, Linspire, Mepis Slackware, Knoppix etc) the operating system component is Gnu/Linux.

quote: Under most definitions, the Linux kernel itself is an operating system, believe it or not

No it is not. It is merely the core of the Gnu/Linux Operating System

]]> By: michuk http://polishlinux.org/apps/window-managers/desktop-environments-the-past-and-the-future/#comment-121699 michuk Mon, 09 Jun 2008 23:32:28 +0000 http://polishlinux.org/apps/window-managers/desktop-environments-the-past-and-the-future/#comment-121699 Please read this article <a href="http://polishlinux.org/gnu/gnusomething/" rel="nofollow">GNU/something</a> to get an idea what the author means by "system", "kernel" and "operating system". And Ubuntu OF COURSE IS AN OPERATING SYSTEM, anyway, under all definitions that I know. Under most definitions, the Linux kernel itself is an operating system, believe it or not :) Please read this article GNU/something to get an idea what the author means by “system”, “kernel” and “operating system”.

And Ubuntu OF COURSE IS AN OPERATING SYSTEM, anyway, under all definitions that I know. Under most definitions, the Linux kernel itself is an operating system, believe it or not :)

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