Comments on: E17 as a Desktop — don’t try this at home! http://polishlinux.org/apps/window-managers/e17-as-a-desktop-dont-try-this-at-home/ All About GNU/Linux and BSD - reviews, comparisons, articles Wed, 17 Mar 2010 20:37:29 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 By: widgeteye http://polishlinux.org/apps/window-managers/e17-as-a-desktop-dont-try-this-at-home/#comment-128501 widgeteye Sun, 14 Jun 2009 21:11:31 +0000 http://polishlinux.org/apps/window-managers/e17-as-a-desktop-dont-try-this-at-home/#comment-128501 2009: It's extremely fast. OPens apps faster than icewm and I have been using icewm for years. I have switched to E17. It's a kicker. 2009: It’s extremely fast. OPens apps faster than icewm and I have been using icewm for years. I have switched to E17. It’s a kicker.

]]> By: ZeriouS http://polishlinux.org/apps/window-managers/e17-as-a-desktop-dont-try-this-at-home/#comment-125758 ZeriouS Thu, 30 Oct 2008 03:30:03 +0000 http://polishlinux.org/apps/window-managers/e17-as-a-desktop-dont-try-this-at-home/#comment-125758 :D Maybe I'll show my girls next time e17 instead of fluxbox =D :D
Maybe I’ll show my girls next time e17 instead of fluxbox =D

]]> By: ZeriouS http://polishlinux.org/apps/window-managers/e17-as-a-desktop-dont-try-this-at-home/#comment-125757 ZeriouS Thu, 30 Oct 2008 03:25:59 +0000 http://polishlinux.org/apps/window-managers/e17-as-a-desktop-dont-try-this-at-home/#comment-125757 You are so damn right. e17 is fast, but as soon as you need to use gnome or kde apps... the related libraries for apps, such as Amarok are loaded. Besides of that, the other applications, which can be run inside of e17 and are not native, destroy the flow and visual beauty of the total desktop design! You are so damn right. e17 is fast, but as soon as you need to use gnome or kde apps… the related libraries for apps, such as Amarok are loaded. Besides of that, the other applications, which can be run inside of e17 and are not native, destroy the flow and visual beauty of the total desktop design!

]]> By: vr http://polishlinux.org/apps/window-managers/e17-as-a-desktop-dont-try-this-at-home/#comment-60026 vr Tue, 25 Sep 2007 14:26:29 +0000 http://polishlinux.org/apps/window-managers/e17-as-a-desktop-dont-try-this-at-home/#comment-60026 I am using e17 for about a year as the only GUI environment on my Arch Linux laptop. I build the it several times from CVS and it is a lottery although it's getting better. I just made scripts to pull it from CVS and build it in correct order. There is more to e17 that is not mentioned in this review . First - modules. They are not apps but they are part of the system and should be considered here. I used extensively Mixer (to adjust the volume) and Battery meter (because it's laptop). And of course, clock. There are modules that I don't use as they are more of distraction - e.g. RSS feeds that scrolls over part of the desktop. And there was one that would pops photos in different parts of screen - very neat but I have work to do. Second - all the GUI can be managed from command line , although I am not an expert on that. Still cannot make enterminus to use bigger fonts and disable shadows. And one more thing about e17 - it's the only desktop environment I know that can run without X server, straight in directfb, although I didn't compile it that way. vr I am using e17 for about a year as the only GUI environment on my Arch Linux laptop. I build the it several times from CVS and it is a lottery although it’s getting better. I just made scripts to pull it from CVS and build it in correct order.
There is more to e17 that is not mentioned in this review .
First - modules. They are not apps but they are part of the system and should be considered here. I used extensively Mixer (to adjust the volume) and Battery meter (because it’s laptop). And of course, clock. There are modules that I don’t use as they are more of distraction - e.g. RSS feeds that scrolls over part of the desktop. And there was one that would pops photos in different parts of screen - very neat but I have work to do.
Second - all the GUI can be managed from command line , although I am not an expert on that. Still cannot make enterminus to use bigger fonts and disable shadows.
And one more thing about e17 - it’s the only desktop environment I know that can run without X server, straight in directfb, although I didn’t compile it that way.

vr

]]> By: Rob http://polishlinux.org/apps/window-managers/e17-as-a-desktop-dont-try-this-at-home/#comment-58969 Rob Sun, 23 Sep 2007 02:13:15 +0000 http://polishlinux.org/apps/window-managers/e17-as-a-desktop-dont-try-this-at-home/#comment-58969 I think that e17 when used with xubuntu is the most stable and easy for use. I have tried e17 on several distros such as ubuntu, xubuntu, debian... The statment the author makes about "usless" is uncalled for. My wife has been a windows only user for ever, when I introduced her to e17 on xubuntu she was sold. She uses it for everything and more than that, on an old laptop with only 1.2ghz celleron, 20g hd 756ram. It is very lightweight and operates faster than any other window manager we have tried. If you just follow the directions on the official ubuntu/xubuntu website it will give you a step by step how to and it works great, not perfect but great. Name one perfect window manager or os and I will try it otherwise this is fun and useable. I think that e17 when used with xubuntu is the most stable and easy for use. I have tried e17 on several distros such as ubuntu, xubuntu, debian… The statment the author makes about “usless” is uncalled for. My wife has been a windows only user for ever, when I introduced her to e17 on xubuntu she was sold. She uses it for everything and more than that, on an old laptop with only 1.2ghz celleron, 20g hd 756ram. It is very lightweight and operates faster than any other window manager we have tried. If you just follow the directions on the official ubuntu/xubuntu website it will give you a step by step how to and it works great, not perfect but great. Name one perfect window manager or os and I will try it otherwise this is fun and useable.

]]> By: wam http://polishlinux.org/apps/window-managers/e17-as-a-desktop-dont-try-this-at-home/#comment-55930 wam Tue, 11 Sep 2007 23:59:19 +0000 http://polishlinux.org/apps/window-managers/e17-as-a-desktop-dont-try-this-at-home/#comment-55930 e17 is definitely a window manager of choice yet unfinished. I've been using it for more than one year now and didn't see much improvement though, compared to the first version that where great already. We still need a systray, but trayer does a good replacement work. Same for the file browser, I keep using nautilus so far. Repositories are available for some disto, at least Ubuntu and Debian (in both 32 and 64 bits) whivh makes it easier than it used to be. It can also be interesting to try out elive, even if I don't really agree with the list of applications installed by default. e17 is definitely a window manager of choice yet unfinished. I’ve been using it for more than one year now and didn’t see much improvement though, compared to the first version that where great already.

We still need a systray, but trayer does a good replacement work. Same for the file browser, I keep using nautilus so far.

Repositories are available for some disto, at least Ubuntu and Debian (in both 32 and 64 bits) whivh makes it easier than it used to be. It can also be interesting to try out elive, even if I don’t really agree with the list of applications installed by default.

]]> By: Joel http://polishlinux.org/apps/window-managers/e17-as-a-desktop-dont-try-this-at-home/#comment-53605 Joel Mon, 03 Sep 2007 00:19:37 +0000 http://polishlinux.org/apps/window-managers/e17-as-a-desktop-dont-try-this-at-home/#comment-53605 Obviously the author of this piece is more mouse oriented than people who prefer light window managers. I went through a period when I used E17 every day and all day for three months. It's fairly stable; not as stable as KDE, however, to call it unstable is misleading. Calling it "useless" should prompt one to look in the mirror. Also, if you had trouble changing the icon box settings, then you're misunderstanding something about how the configuration dialogs work and you should go to the files and manipulate them directly. Light Window managers and desktop environments (such as Fluxbox and Xfce) appeal mainly to people who spend a lot of time in editors or a terminal emulator (i.e., me). I'm going back to E17 because I realized that Emacs is my command shell and I don't need everything that's happening with KDE. It encourages me to use the mouse too much. If I'm living in Emacs, I might as well have a pretty picture while I browse the web at lunchtime, and a nice-looking clock in the corner. And yes, as the poster above mentioned, all you do to activate the playlist in emphasis is turn on the music player daemon. Without loading up E17, I would be unaware of the music player daemon! I think new development strategies and new programming paradigms are more important than stability to the Enlightenment developers. I'm not waiting for a stable release: Slacke17 is stable enough for me. Joel Obviously the author of this piece is more mouse oriented than people who prefer light window managers. I went through a period when I used E17 every day and all day for three months. It’s fairly stable; not as stable as KDE, however, to call it unstable is misleading. Calling it “useless” should prompt one to look in the mirror.

Also, if you had trouble changing the icon box settings, then you’re misunderstanding something about how the configuration dialogs work and you should go to the files and manipulate them directly. Light Window managers and desktop environments (such as Fluxbox and Xfce) appeal mainly to people who spend a lot of time in editors or a terminal emulator (i.e., me).

I’m going back to E17 because I realized that Emacs is my command shell and I don’t need everything that’s happening with KDE. It encourages me to use the mouse too much. If I’m living in Emacs, I might as well have a pretty picture while I browse the web at lunchtime, and a nice-looking clock in the corner.

And yes, as the poster above mentioned, all you do to activate the playlist in emphasis is turn on the music player daemon. Without loading up E17, I would be unaware of the music player daemon!

I think new development strategies and new programming paradigms are more important than stability to the Enlightenment developers. I’m not waiting for a stable release: Slacke17 is stable enough for me.

Joel

]]> By: killfire http://polishlinux.org/apps/window-managers/e17-as-a-desktop-dont-try-this-at-home/#comment-49469 killfire Mon, 13 Aug 2007 04:52:04 +0000 http://polishlinux.org/apps/window-managers/e17-as-a-desktop-dont-try-this-at-home/#comment-49469 many would say that both here and there are inappropriate. e17 is faster than both ends of the spectrum (check online, there are timings raster did a long time ago, of speed to generate windows, move them, etc.. all the things a WM should do), and it uses a modest amount of resources. to compare it to a mac (which hog up resources at a rate only surpassed by vista) is offensive in that regard. one of their test boxes is a pentium 133. run the latest macos on that thing. many would say that both here and there are inappropriate. e17 is faster than both ends of the spectrum (check online, there are timings raster did a long time ago, of speed to generate windows, move them, etc.. all the things a WM should do), and it uses a modest amount of resources. to compare it to a mac (which hog up resources at a rate only surpassed by vista) is offensive in that regard. one of their test boxes is a pentium 133. run the latest macos on that thing.

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