Comments on: APT-build — optimize your Debian! http://polishlinux.org/linux/debian/apt-build-optimize-debian/ All About GNU/Linux and BSD - reviews, comparisons, articles Wed, 20 Aug 2008 13:35:33 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.3 By: vook http://polishlinux.org/linux/debian/apt-build-optimize-debian/#comment-118983 vook Wed, 02 Apr 2008 01:40:45 +0000 http://polishlinux.org/linux/debian/apt-build-optimize-debian/#comment-118983 The term "Gentoo's USE flags" implies that you believe that this is something that Gentoo has created and/or offers that other distributions and UNIX variants do not. Gentoo just tells you about them right away during the install. You can always completely customize the compilation process by creating a make.conf file in /etc - (linux didn't invent this either btw - it's been around a long time). No, apt-build is not a novelty. It just doesn't hold your hand the way Gentoo's documentation does. Nothing against Gentoo btw - it has gotten people excited about Linux in a way other distributions have not - and it has outstanding documentation. I just hope people realize that Gentoo doesn't offer anything that wasn't available before. If I really want the fastest and most optimized open OS around and I'm willing to tediously build it from scratch, I'll pass on Gentoo and go straight for FreeBSD (or one of the others). The term “Gentoo’s USE flags” implies that you believe that this is something that Gentoo has created and/or offers that other distributions and UNIX variants do not. Gentoo just tells you about them right away during the install. You can always completely customize the compilation process by creating a make.conf file in /etc - (linux didn’t invent this either btw - it’s been around a long time).

No, apt-build is not a novelty. It just doesn’t hold your hand the way Gentoo’s documentation does.

Nothing against Gentoo btw - it has gotten people excited about Linux in a way other distributions have not - and it has outstanding documentation. I just hope people realize that Gentoo doesn’t offer anything that wasn’t available before. If I really want the fastest and most optimized open OS around and I’m willing to tediously build it from scratch, I’ll pass on Gentoo and go straight for FreeBSD (or one of the others).

]]> By: Catnap http://polishlinux.org/linux/debian/apt-build-optimize-debian/#comment-84038 Catnap Sun, 25 Nov 2007 20:36:09 +0000 http://polishlinux.org/linux/debian/apt-build-optimize-debian/#comment-84038 I tried apt-build a year or two ago. IIRC, "apt-build world" failed after a couple of hours of compiling. It might work better in the future because, AFAIK, Debian developers now do more automatic build testing than they used to in the past. (They don't use apt-build to do this testing, though. ;-) Nowadays I dual boot between the good old binary-Debian and a source-distro called Source Mage that is designed from the ground up to build all packages from source. The easy-to-use "sorcery" package manager in Source Mage is written in Bash and they try to avoid adding any patches or distro-specific configurations to packages, so Source Mage is refreshingly different from Debian. I love both of these distros. I tried apt-build a year or two ago. IIRC, “apt-build world” failed after a couple of hours of compiling. It might work better in the future because, AFAIK, Debian developers now do more automatic build testing than they used to in the past. (They don’t use apt-build to do this testing, though. ;-)

Nowadays I dual boot between the good old binary-Debian and a source-distro called Source Mage that is designed from the ground up to build all packages from source. The easy-to-use “sorcery” package manager in Source Mage is written in Bash and they try to avoid adding any patches or distro-specific configurations to packages, so Source Mage is refreshingly different from Debian. I love both of these distros.

]]> By: bob f http://polishlinux.org/linux/debian/apt-build-optimize-debian/#comment-83454 bob f Sat, 24 Nov 2007 12:22:28 +0000 http://polishlinux.org/linux/debian/apt-build-optimize-debian/#comment-83454 I have used apt-build in the past, and if I remember correctly only the explicity named application was built. The dependencies binaries where downloaded/installed and the named package only was built. IMHO, Gentoo's USE flags are what makes building from source make sense and without these, I found apt-build to be more of a novelty. I have used apt-build in the past, and if I remember correctly only the explicity named application was built. The dependencies binaries where downloaded/installed and the named package only was built. IMHO, Gentoo’s USE flags are what makes building from source make sense and without these, I found apt-build to be more of a novelty.

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