Comments on: How to get a refund for Windows in Poland? http://polishlinux.org/linux/how-to-get-a-refund-for-windows-in-poland/ All About GNU/Linux and BSD - reviews, comparisons, articles Wed, 07 Jan 2009 13:59:09 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 By: michuk http://polishlinux.org/linux/how-to-get-a-refund-for-windows-in-poland/#comment-123882 michuk Wed, 03 Sep 2008 18:14:48 +0000 http://polishlinux.org/linux/how-to-get-a-refund-for-windows-in-poland/#comment-123882 You can now buy a few models of Thinkpads from Lenovo with Linux installed in Poland. Still for most of the high-end devices, Vista is the only option, same as everywhere else. You can now buy a few models of Thinkpads from Lenovo with Linux installed in Poland. Still for most of the high-end devices, Vista is the only option, same as everywhere else.

]]> By: Geert http://polishlinux.org/linux/how-to-get-a-refund-for-windows-in-poland/#comment-123875 Geert Wed, 03 Sep 2008 09:58:20 +0000 http://polishlinux.org/linux/how-to-get-a-refund-for-windows-in-poland/#comment-123875 In Belgium I got a +200 euro refund from Dell for Windows Vista Home Premium and Works 9.0 licenses, without any discussion. I just filled in a form on Dell's customer support website (referring to "<a href="http://www1.euro.dell.com/content/topics/topic.aspx/emea/topics/footer/terms?c=be&l=nl&s=gen&~lt=popup" rel="nofollow">Algemene Voorwaarden en Policies</a>" which indeed documents the right for a refund) and few days later got an e-mail back explaining the steps. In Belgium I got a +200 euro refund from Dell for Windows Vista Home Premium and Works 9.0 licenses, without any discussion. I just filled in a form on Dell’s customer support website (referring to “Algemene Voorwaarden en Policies” which indeed documents the right for a refund) and few days later got an e-mail back explaining the steps.

]]> By: Poe http://polishlinux.org/linux/how-to-get-a-refund-for-windows-in-poland/#comment-123874 Poe Wed, 03 Sep 2008 09:43:17 +0000 http://polishlinux.org/linux/how-to-get-a-refund-for-windows-in-poland/#comment-123874 Tim, I've read in internet forums that one can buy ThinkPads without preinstalled Windows from Lenovo only if he orders, say, 100 laptops at once. This can easely be the case with Linux Emporium. Tim, I’ve read in internet forums that one can buy ThinkPads without preinstalled Windows from Lenovo only if he orders, say, 100 laptops at once. This can easely be the case with Linux Emporium.

]]> By: Tim Williams http://polishlinux.org/linux/how-to-get-a-refund-for-windows-in-poland/#comment-123858 Tim Williams Tue, 02 Sep 2008 08:42:43 +0000 http://polishlinux.org/linux/how-to-get-a-refund-for-windows-in-poland/#comment-123858 This might not help much in Poland, but in the UK you can buy lenovo thinkpads with linux pre-installed from the linux emporium, these have been available for some time years now. I know the owner of linux emporium and I can't imagine that he would have been selling them if he hadn't found some way to get lenovo to sell them to him without windows. So it is possible ! Note : I'm not an employee if linux emporium but they are friends of mine. This might not help much in Poland, but in the UK you can buy lenovo thinkpads with linux pre-installed from the linux emporium, these have been available for some time years now. I know the owner of linux emporium and I can’t imagine that he would have been selling them if he hadn’t found some way to get lenovo to sell them to him without windows. So it is possible !

Note : I’m not an employee if linux emporium but they are friends of mine.

]]> By: Amedeo http://polishlinux.org/linux/how-to-get-a-refund-for-windows-in-poland/#comment-123830 Amedeo Mon, 01 Sep 2008 06:34:24 +0000 http://polishlinux.org/linux/how-to-get-a-refund-for-windows-in-poland/#comment-123830 Hi folks! This is the link to donwload the original judgement of the italian case mentioned above: http://www.aduc.it/dyn/documenti/allegati/sentenza_hp.pdf Sorry, I'm not able to translate in english the whole document, but I hope it could help someone to solve similar situation. Hi folks!
This is the link to donwload the original judgement of the italian case mentioned above:
http://www.aduc.it/dyn/documenti/allegati/sentenza_hp.pdf

Sorry, I’m not able to translate in english the whole document, but I hope it could help someone to solve similar situation.

]]> By: David Pastern http://polishlinux.org/linux/how-to-get-a-refund-for-windows-in-poland/#comment-123813 David Pastern Sun, 31 Aug 2008 00:15:14 +0000 http://polishlinux.org/linux/how-to-get-a-refund-for-windows-in-poland/#comment-123813 Well, if Lenovo doesn't sell it [the laptop] without an operating system, and will only sell it with Microsoft Windows, why is this? Do they have a licence with Microsoft that they will only sell laptops with Windows, and not other operating systems? If so, it should be relatively easy to subpoena Lenovo to prove or disprove this. If the above is true, then: a) any reasonable government should be finding Microsoft guilty of anti trust and monopolistic actions b) find Lenovo guilty of participating in illegal activity Thus resulting in both being heavily fined - I'm in favor of 80% of their gross income for 5 years. That'll make them think about doing that sort of behaviour again. A solid judiciary system is needed that does not bow to political pressure (to let these criminals off), and ensures that any appeals are dealt with in a swift manner, solidifying the original decision in cement. I'm well and truly sick of the rich, powerful corporates bending the law to their own needs. That is not justice. Dave Well, if Lenovo doesn’t sell it [the laptop] without an operating system, and will only sell it with Microsoft Windows, why is this? Do they have a licence with Microsoft that they will only sell laptops with Windows, and not other operating systems? If so, it should be relatively easy to subpoena Lenovo to prove or disprove this.

If the above is true, then:

a) any reasonable government should be finding Microsoft guilty of anti trust and monopolistic actions

b) find Lenovo guilty of participating in illegal activity

Thus resulting in both being heavily fined - I’m in favor of 80% of their gross income for 5 years. That’ll make them think about doing that sort of behaviour again.

A solid judiciary system is needed that does not bow to political pressure (to let these criminals off), and ensures that any appeals are dealt with in a swift manner, solidifying the original decision in cement.

I’m well and truly sick of the rich, powerful corporates bending the law to their own needs. That is not justice.

Dave

]]> By: Patrick Ng http://polishlinux.org/linux/how-to-get-a-refund-for-windows-in-poland/#comment-123812 Patrick Ng Sun, 31 Aug 2008 00:01:02 +0000 http://polishlinux.org/linux/how-to-get-a-refund-for-windows-in-poland/#comment-123812 Well Done ! You fought for your rights, and did not give up. Well Done !

You fought for your rights, and did not give up.

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