PCLinuxOS 2007 — simple and elegant

[ Friday, 20 July 2007, wiezyr ]


PCLinuxOS (PCLOS) is one of many GNU/Linux systems belonging to the family of Desktop distributions. Its aim is to be a friendly and simple to use operating system. It was forked from Mandrake Linux (Mandriva at present) in 2003. It’s now a fully independent distro, although it does take advantage of a few of Mandriva’s technologies.

LiveCD

PCLinuxOS is distributed in LiveCD form but can also be installed to your hard disk drive (HDD). Thanks to these options one can get familiarized with the system without any interference to one’s existing systems. PCLinuxOS is available in an English only version at present, but a DVD release with multilingual support is being planned. The CD comprises nearly 2 GB of compressed software, including among others the KDE graphical environment, the OpenOffice.org suite, Firefox web browser, Thunderbird e-mail client, K3B CD/DVD burner application, Frostwire, Ktorrent, Amarok audio player, Digikam photo manager, Flash, Java, Beryl 3D, and a lot of other software. Fortunately PCLOS is not overloaded with superfluous applications. A sound rule was adopted: that for one task there should be only one application.

One piece of information may be of more value to Polish (and also French) users, PCLinuxOS LiveCD contains Sagem800 drivers for E2T version. So there should be no problems putting the modem into operation with ADSL telecom services that use this modem.

PCLinuxOS Desktop after installation
PCLinuxOS Desktop after installation

Installation

You can install the LiveCD onto HDD through very simple steps. There’s an extra Installation Guide in which the steps are described and illustrated with screenshots. The chief task in performing the installation is to select a partition for the Linux system. You can use the whole disk, choose one partition from pre-prepared ones, or select a simple partition manager (diskdrake) and make partitions for your new system on a do-it-yourself basis. After formatting the selected partition the whole content of the LiveCD goes to hard disk. All that is left to do now is to configure a boot manager, create password for root and make users’ accounts. The whole operation should take no more than 20-30 min. Then you must restart your computer. Do not forget to pull out CD from CD drive. Now you can entertain yourself with your new system.

Configuration

All configuration tasks concerning hardware and software are done with the help of PCLinuxOS Control Center. It is actually Mandriva’s Drakconf application which was adapted to PCLOS – simple to use, but with a wealth of advanced configuration options.

PCLinuxOS Control Center
PCLinuxOS Control Center

I started Drakconf. All hardware was detected and configured correctly. My USB keyboard, USB mouse, a printer, and a TV card were ready to use immediately after the configuration process. In the case of the last item I did have to download additional packages. They were automatically grabbed and installed, and the only thing I had to do then was to configure the TVTime application.

Proprietary drivers for graphics card are treated differently. However they can be easily installed with Synaptic package manager. In the case of nVidia drivers you should choose one of them corresponding to which graphics card you have. With the selected driver the “dkms” package will be installed as well. This will make all the necessary changes to your configuration files. If you change or update the kernel “dkms” will automatically readjust and rebuild the drivers for the new kernel version. It suffices to restart the X Window System now to have your system use the new driver and allow you to explore its potential in full.

Desktop Effects

3D Desktop Configuration
3D Desktop Configuration

Now, as your system has 3D acceleration support installed you can proceed to embellish your Desktop with Beryl or Compiz.
To configure the programs you have to start PCLinuxOS Control Center first. Then choose the Hardware tab, select the Configure 3D Desktop Effects option, and Full 3D desktop effects. Now you have to make up your mind whether to bring into play AIGLX or XGL technology. You have to tick off whichever window manager you have chosen as well. It is possible to run Beryl or Compiz configuration tools to have your desktop effects adjusted to your fancy in minute detail. When you accept your settings you’ll have to restart X Window System. When you log-in you’ll be able to explore your impressive, new Desktop.

Localization

This is written from a Polish perspective but should apply for other languages as well. A few applications like OpenOffice.org, Firefox, and Thunderbird have Polish versions or they have localized add-ons available. The additional packages can be found on official PCLinuxOS repositories. But using “user_fx” repo would be more beneficial. You can make use of it in the two ways:

  1. add to /etc/apt/sources.list file the following entry:
    rpm http://www.linuxfx.bighost.pl/linux pclos/2007 pclos
  2. add the repo using Synaptic
    • open Synaptic, from “Settings” menu choose the “Repositories” option
    • click the “New” button and fill out these entry fields:
      1. URI: http://www.linuxfx.bighost.pl/linux/
      2. Distribution: pclos/2007
      3. Section/System: pclos

After that you need to click the “Reload” button then you’ll have to wait while information about the new repo and its packages are updated. Then find “pclinuxos-pl” package and tick it off for installation (“Mark for installation”). Some dependencies comprised of a few additional localization packages will be marked automatically. But not all, so you will have to select some manually. I’ve done that for Mozilla packages (Firefox and Thunderbird) and OpenOffice.org suite and national dictionaries. When you mark all the packages you need to click the “Apply” button. The packages will be downloaded and installed. After that localedrake will be started. Of course, you need to give your nationality here — in our case Polish — and then in the next window the name of your country. In this way you’ll set your local language to UTF-8 encoding. You need to logout now and to login again to have the new settings work.

If UTF-8 doesn’t suit you and you’d like to use a legacy national standard (like ISO-8859-2), start LocaleDrake once more and click the following options: Kde Menu -> System -> Configuration -> Other -> LocaleDrake (User).
Then click the Advanced button and mark Backward Compatibility Coding, leaving other options intact. The results will take effect after your next login.

To have KDE in your mother tongue you need to make changes in KDE Control Center. Look for the language settings in Regional & Accessibility and Country/Region & Language tabs.

Please keep in mind that you can find another interesting packages in the repo that we have installed, Kadu for example. Feel free to explore.

Managing Software

Synaptic
Synaptic in action – updating the system

PCLinuxOS uses APT (Advanced Packaging Tool) for software management. It is highly likely that the greater portion of users will choose Synaptic for the purpose. It is nothing more than a graphical user interface for APT. PCLOS utilizes RPM package technology, and it has in its repository about 6500 of such packages. Sure, its not as impressive a number as the those in Debian’s or Gentoo’s opulent repos, but in most cases it fulfills the needs of the common user. The full upgrade with the help of Synaptic can be boiled down to four mouseclicks. Namely:

  • Refresh – to refresh information about packages stored in repositories
  • Mark All Upgrades – mark for upgrade all packages having new versions in repositories
  • Apply – confirm selections
  • Apply – after checking a list of the packages accept changes

The selected packages will be downloaded and installed, and your system will be upgraded. The same method can be applied to install or remove a given package or a few packages but you need to mark them by yourself. Synaptic is an easy and convenient tool for package management, it is suitable for every user.

Multimedia

The support for multimedia is a strong point of PCLinuxOS. It supports all common multimedia file formats. It has no problems playing mp3, wma, ogg, mp4, avi, wmv, and mov files – I checked it myself :) . And without the need to install new codecs. All requirements for running multimedia are fulfilled by the default system. The same can be said about media carrying multimedia data like CD-AUDIO, VCD, and DVD-VIDEO. CD-AUDIO and DVD disks are recognized and play back using KsCD for CD-AUDIO, and Kaffeine for DVD, automatically when inserted into CD/DVD drives. Only VCD presented problems. Every attempt to play VCD with “Kaffeine” ended up with an error message and Kaffeine shutting down. Automatic play back with “Play DVD with MPlayer” ended in failures as well. The VCDs can be played in Mplayer invoking its VCD -> Open Disk… option.

Because PCLinuxOS is distributed with Java, Flash, and mplayerplug-in for Firefox Internet multimedia are well supported by the system. You will be able to watch movies on YouTube and trailers on Apple pages, to listen to the music that can be found on many audio services (jamendo, magnatune), or to tune in to the Internet radio (last.fm).

Shrugging off the inconsistency with VCD operation the multimedia services are simply excellent.

ATTENTION
The infamous win32-codecs package (containing proprietary codecs) and libdvdcss2 library (decoding protected DVDs) are not present in the system for legal reasons. So if you find multimedia which you can’t play back, you must download and install them and all your problems should simply vanish.

Summary

I must admit I am impressed by PCLinuxOS. And according to the distro slogan, which includes the two words “radically simple”, installation and configuration of the system is really easy, and the system is very friendly in everyday usage. Some of this “radical simplicity” should be credited to hammered out details, and the system’s elegant appearance (although this is a matter of individual taste). Regular users will find in PCLinuxOS everything they need “out of the box”. Thanks to the consistency and the possibilities to configure the system with graphical tools (e.g. PCLinuxOS Control Center) this distro is close to ideal for those starting their adventure with Linux systems and migrating from Microsoft Windows systems.

Those who treat the console environment as “the be all and end all” and those who want to have a refined system to “work with” and not to “work on” ;-) should be equally satisfied. A fair sized community is ranged around the distro (not in Poland for the present), but the popularity of PCLinuxOS is growing (it occupies second place in Distrowatch contest). I think it has great a opportunity to gain on Ubuntu or even to remove Ubuntu from the first place. I recommend it to everyone who values high comfort and simplicity in a distro.

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fold this thread Gary  Friday, 20 July 2007 o godz. 1:42 pm #  Add karma Subtract karma  --2

While PCLinuxOS is great, it will not replace Ubuntu at the top. It needs more up-to-date Kernel and HAL to keep up with newer laptops. I use to run PCLinuxOS exclusively, until I got my new laptop. PCLinuxOS does not support the wireless chipset, does not support the built-in multimedia card reader, does not natively support Intel 915 based video and does not support the DVD RW drive. If they can get the Kernel and HAL updated, than they have chance because someone like me will go back in a heartbeat (I have supported PCLinuxOS with donations in the past). But until then I will stick with LinuxMint which leverages Ubuntu to provide an excellent distro.

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fold this thread GreyGeek  Monday, 23 July 2007 o godz. 5:52 am #  Add karma Subtract karma  +0

“Won’t replace Ubuntu at the top”? Top of what, Gary?

Since you don’t specify the heap I’ll use Distrowatch. PCLinuxOS has been on TOP of Ubuntu at distrowatch for the last THREE MONTHS.

“PCLinuxOS does not support the wireless chip set, etc…”

Strange. Yesterday I downloaded LinuxMint and ran it in the LiveCD mode on my laptop. It was visually beautiful but, contrary to your experience, it joined the list of other distros built around GNOME which refused to recognize the Broadcom 4306 chip on my Gateway m675prr latop. I was thinking the same thing about the kernel and HAL in LinuxMint as you were in PCLinuxOS. PCLinux has no problem allowing me to configure wireless connections on my laptop. I also have no problems with my card reader, my USB ports, serial via USB, USB Floppy drives, my ATI video and Beryl, etc…

I’m glad LinuxMint worked better for you than it did for me. I’m also glad that you like GNOME, but for me KDE has more power and functionality.

mdawkins, Compare Kubuntu with PCLinuxOS to see how they both utilize KDE, and why PCLinuxOS has made more of KDE than Kubuntu has. That’s why people who try Kubuntu and then PCLinuxOS stay with PCLinuxOS.

As far as cherry picking PCLinuxOS and adding that fruit to Ubuntu, you are not the first one to suggest it, nor the first to fail to understand the complexity of what you request. Let me explain.

Ubuntu is built around GNOME, and GNOME is built using C and the GTK+ widgetset. PCLinuxOS is built around KDE and KDE is based on the GPL version of the QT toolkit from Trolltech, and C++. Porting an application written using GTK+ to QT is no small chore. Likewise, replacing QT Signals & Slots with C callbacks would be a PITA, and so would be the opposite. There are more problems converting GTK+ GUI front ends because there are several tools which are used to make them. QT has only one tool, the QT-Designer, which creates an XML database. Converting GUI’s from either toolset to the other would be labor intensive and the results would be unsatisfactory for most because the widget sets “look and feel” are different. Converting functionality would also be difficult because the QT widget set and API is mature (version 4.3) and very, very rich. That’s why KDE has exceeded the functionality of XP on the desktop and KDE+Beryl exceeds the capability of VISTA, IMO.

There is a project to create a common set of interface specification to the Linux desktop.
http://portland.freedesktop.org/wiki/
The ODSL “Portland [project] is a joint OSDL/Freedesktop.org initiative to provide independent software developers (ISDs) with stable APIs into Desktop Linux and other Free Desktop platforms. The first result of the Portland initiative is Xdg-utils, a free set of open source tools that allows applications to easily integrate with the desktop configuration your customer has chosen to work with.”

I never checked LinuxMint, but if I do
“locate xdg” in PCLinuxOS I see a large list of Portland files. The Portland project has a problem, though. Development on the GTK and QT widget sets are not standing still, nor will their developers let themselves be limited to the functionalities present in the xdg protocols.

Besides, CHOICE IS GOOD!

fold this thread Shawn  Friday, 25 April 2008 o godz. 6:53 pm #  Add karma Subtract karma  +0

I think Ubuntu, LinuxMint, & PCLOS are all fabulous. They show just how mature and functional the open-source movement has become……

But one issue with this post, which is generally well thought out…..

Distrowatch treats Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu as separate entities…..add them up and Ubuntu towers over PCLOS…..

I don’t those stats really matter though…

 
 
fold this thread Alex  Thursday, 9 August 2007 o godz. 9:01 am #  Add karma Subtract karma  +2

PCLinux 2007 is simply the BEST. I am a Linux newbie and I am very sorry to admit that because even after spending months on various linux distros, i could not get my system working to full potential. I have a pretty old system i.e AMD Sempron 2500+ with 256 MB memory.

I tried various Distros like:
Suse 10.2 -my system really crawled and updating or installing s/ws through Yast so painstakingly slow that it was killing me.
Ubuntu Fiesty Fawn Grossly over-rated ! Simply meant for average to upper level geeks. No s/w in installation CDs with m/media support. System speed and installation time was slow but better than Suse.
Mandriva 2007 Elder brother of PCLinux. Very good running speed in my old System. S/w installation was smooth. MP3 support out of the box but not for many other video/audio types. PDF support was not available.
PCLinux 2007 The Ultimate Distro !!
Full audio/video media support. PDF reader included. Very detailed and easy to install. Operation speed was phenomenal even in my old PC ! THE ULTIMATE DISTRO that can make even your old box work like magic.

In end, I would like to specially mention that Linux is very much behind Windows in terms of popularity and usage. Windows became popoular because it was easy to use. New users accustomed to years of Windows usage won’t venture into Linux and spend months even to learn basics! The easy way out is to make Linux usage as easy as possible. A guy like me need not have to bother about multimedia playability and sundry jobs. Once we get accustomed to Linux, we can venture into command-line mumbo-jumbo and learn the intricacies of Linux. So my full vote and support goes for PCLINUX 2007 for making it so easy for me. I think if I had installed PCLinux months back, I would have learned so much more instead of killing all my time in enabling multimedia etc.

Alex Thomas

fold this thread Raideiin  Thursday, 4 October 2007 o godz. 5:42 am #  Add karma Subtract karma  +0

PCLinuxOS is an overrated distribution. I understand that it could be easier for a newbie to get multimedia codecs already installed within the system, but I don’t think this “feature” should be the most important thing when speaking about quality and reliability of a linux distro. First of all: PCLinuxOS has got big issues when I tried to install it in italian. Every setup information was written in English and at the end of the process my whole system was still in English. I consider this a BUG, because if you give the possibilitiy to the user to choose for another language, this feature should be working out of the box (like ubuntu does).

PCLinuxOS tries to copy from windows graphics hoping this will be helpful to get new users directly from windows. This can be a good marketing strategy, but it doesn’t prove the overall quality of the features and usability tools provided.
Usability is a pain in the neck when compared to ubuntu: applications in the kicker menu are organized in a strage way. Just to give one example I found OpenOffice base in the “spreadsheets” menu, can you explain me why?

Newbies coming from windows are probably not aware of it, but PcLOS is not giving the users a well integrated and good designed desktop experience. PCLOS is mostly a KDE based distribution, but it uses many tools coming from GNOME, which is a completely different Desktop Envirnoment, with different human interface guidelines and based on different libraries as well.

For what it concerns stability I found PCLOS very similar to windows systems: it was buggy and annoying. I got three crashes during the first session. When I changed resolution to my screen (it was badly recognized) PCLOS asked me to restart the session and so I did… for the last time. I wasn’t able to get back in KDE after the logon screen (why GDM with KDE?), the system simply froze at this stage. (No, Xorg wasn’t the problem).

So, how can you say that PCLOS is a good distro? In my opinion this is absolutely unusable. If your problem is multimedia support just install Linux Mint and have a nice day, if you want a good KDE based distro check out simply mepis, kubuntu, SuSE, Mandriva, Sabayon, but please, PLEASE! Don’t give this shitty distro any opportunity to have access to your hard drive!

Another thing: Windows became popular because it was preinstalled in every computer in the world, not because it’s simple to use. Tell me please why to shut down your computer you have to push on the “Start” button! It’s a nonsense! You think windows is easy to use just because you started with it and now you’re used to those nonsenses!

 
 
fold this thread DL Sanders  Friday, 30 November 2007 o godz. 9:22 pm #  Add karma Subtract karma  +0

Ahem. I don’t even know how to respond to some of that… support has been relatively consistent and fine on my satellite with the 915/915x chipset, DVD RW, wireless…. for some time now – IN fact, its been good enough in all areas whether done natively or not – which, btw, nobody “natively” supports any vendor hardware… ahem. – that I prefer PCLOS on pc laptops. Yes, there are always improvements to be made (w/any distro), but they are minor for PCLOS no matter how you cut it -

 
 
fold this thread mdawkins  Friday, 20 July 2007 o godz. 3:40 pm #  Add karma Subtract karma  +0

Very good point Gary. I have brought this up several times in the PCLOS forums. I have asked the questions how easy would it be to base PCLOS off of Ubuntu instead of Mandriva and to port the MCC over to Ubuntu?

I have been a Mandriva user since 2000 and I have always enjoyed it until I saw PCLOS come along a give me all the modifications out of the box that I always did to Mandriva to make it usable.

I think overall PCLOS is a more usable, better polished, and faster distro than the Ubuntus, but Ubuntu has a bigger and more technical community that anybody would be a fool not to use. And like you mentioned this allows Ubuntu to keep up to date with the newer kernels and hardware detection while still being able to debug with greater efficiency.

Port the goodies of Mandriva/PCLOS to a Ubuntu base.
Base new system on Ubuntu
Apply the polished effect of PCLOS
and recompile the system build to i586 from i386 for speed.

The pompous idea of “Not invented here” and doing everything my way is starting to get old when talking about advancing the F/OSS desktop. I say build on top of what others have done and not try to duplicate the same effort in parallel.

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fold this thread michuk  Friday, 20 July 2007 o godz. 4:52 pm #  Add karma Subtract karma  +2

There is already an Ubuntu-based PCLinuxOS-like system with KDE which is MEPIS. The only thing it lacks is some good wizards like drakconf, I guess.

fold this thread mdawkins  Friday, 20 July 2007 o godz. 5:09 pm #  Add karma Subtract karma  +0

You guess? Hands down that is a third of what makes PCLOS/Mandriva an excellent distro!

The Mandriva/PCLOS Control Center
The polished look of and integration of PCLOS
The speed because it’s compiled for i586 and not i386

Those three things right there keep me on PCLOS.

Mepis is a great distro, but it easily lacks 2 out of the 3 that I have listed.

fold this thread CeVO  Tuesday, 24 July 2007 o godz. 12:40 pm #  Add karma Subtract karma  +0

Those 3 issues are of course quite arbitrary. MEPIS easily beats PCLOS when it comes to:
- better filled repos
- system repair options (GRUB, Xwindows, user settings)
- wireless out of the box

Also, let’s not forget that MEPIS was the first to combine live CD and easy install CD, and offer multi media out of the box.

To each his own. PCLOS is better for one, and MEPIS better for the other.

And PCLOS being faster than MEPIS is bull…

 
fold this thread mdawkins  Saturday, 28 July 2007 o godz. 7:58 am #  Add karma Subtract karma  +0

I’d say ubuntu/debian repos are very comparable to PCLOS/Mandriva repos. I don’t know about Mepis anymore.

I remember the Mepis Control Center being mediocre at best. Hopefully it is getting better, but if you read any of my other posts. What I am trying to say is why try to reinvent the wheel when MCC or Yast2 is more mature.

From what I have been reading lately, both Ubuntu and PCLOS are hit and missing on various wireless configurations of different chipsets and drivers.

Mepis was the first great live cd with the install option, but I don’t think it really stands out anymore. Hey but to each their own. Go ahead and continue Not Invented Here!!!

And as far as being bull. Try them on older hardware and you will see. I used to volunteer at a school that used both Mandriva and Mepis for older computers and it was painfully obvious the difference in speed.

 
 
 
 
fold this thread knoppics  Friday, 20 July 2007 o godz. 4:19 pm #  Add karma Subtract karma  +1

PCLinuxOS replaced ubuntu on the top, the problem is that the results are show in the last 6 months and pcLinux OS as about 3 months, so to compare it you need to put the results in the last 3 months, and surprises of the surprises PCLinux OS is on TOP…

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fold this thread Charles Wilson  Friday, 20 July 2007 o godz. 5:51 pm #  Add karma Subtract karma  +0

I use PCLOS as my base distribution and I am quite pleased with it.

The only bug I’ve found is in KMail, which locks up when deleting mail. At least one other person on the PCLOS Forum has this problem.

Other than that, it is a beautiful thing!

CW

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fold this thread Adam Williamson  Friday, 20 July 2007 o godz. 6:23 pm #  Add karma Subtract karma  +1

As was discussed extensively in various places recently :) , this is not true:

“It’s now a fully independent distro, although it does take advantage of a few of Mandriva’s technologies.”

PCLinuxOS 0.93a was based on Mandrake 9.2. PCLinuxOS 2007 did not continue with that base or create a new one: it re-based off Mandriva Linux 2007. A majority of the packages in the PCLinuxOS 2007 repositories are straight rebuilds of Mandriva Linux 2007 packages. Thus PCLOS cannot really be said to be ‘independent’ of Mandriva. Texstar writes that the re-base was done for reasons of time pressure and limited developer resources, and he would prefer to have a truly forked (rather than regularly re-based) distro and will aim for this in future, but they’re not there yet.

Do you know of the ‘Mandriva Xtreme’ edition of Mandriva sold exclusively in Poland by Mandriva Poland? It’d be interesting to see a review of that. http://www.mandrivastore.pl/?show=xtreme-1plus2

Oh, and BTW, you also misspelled “Flash” as “Flesh” :)

Adam Williamson
Mandriva

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fold this thread mdawkins  Saturday, 21 July 2007 o godz. 12:56 am #  Add karma Subtract karma  +0

Adam, do you work for Mandriva or are you stating that you only use it?

fold this thread Vance  Sunday, 22 July 2007 o godz. 10:08 pm #  Add karma Subtract karma  +2

Adam Williamson is the Community Manager for Mandriva.

 
 
 
fold this thread Richard Steven Hack  Friday, 20 July 2007 o godz. 9:30 pm #  Add karma Subtract karma  +3

Moving from a Mandriva base to an Ubuntu base would be a serious mistake. Mandriva is a more mature and better supported Linux distro than the (X)buntus. I’ve used both and dumped both – currently running on openSUSE.

Mandriva has its problems, but Ubuntu and Kubuntu simply do poorer quality assurance than the other major distros (not that the others don’t have their problems in that regard as well, but perhaps less so.)

However, the value of PCLinusOS is that they iron out the problems with the distro. This is the best way to get an excellent distro – find one that is already based on a well supported distro and that concentrates on cleaning up the stuff that fell through the cracks.

So it is possible that if PCLinuxOS switched to Ubuntu that it would actually make a distro better than either Mandriva or Ubuntu.

It’s the quality of the developers and maintenance team that make the distro good or bad.

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fold this thread mdawkins  Saturday, 21 July 2007 o godz. 1:21 am #  Add karma Subtract karma  +0

Mandriva is a more mature and better supported Linux distro than the (X)buntus

Can you give some specifics? I used to think this, but I am realizing slowing this might not be as true as it used to. I have always thought that MCC has been far ahead of anything else out there even past openSuse’s Yast2.

Ubuntu is completely lacking these tools, but as far as using the latest releases of software, Mandriva is beginning to fall behind. And this is kind of where PCLOS comes in, but I say take the strongest parts of each base and use them.

Ubuntu/Debian package base is slightly larger that Mandriva’s. It is cleaner as far as cyclic or redundant package dependencies. The technical community and user base community only seems to be growing and they are doers as far as documenting and providing support.

And I don’t care what tuomas says about Gnome/Ubuntu being pretty. To each their own, they can keep their brown earthy toned theme going.

 
 
fold this thread tuomas  Saturday, 21 July 2007 o godz. 12:09 am #  Add karma Subtract karma  +1

I have not used pclinuxos in a while but when I did I had some basic problems on my notebooks, both wireless and other. Drakeconfig seemed to be broken at the time and there was no way to fix things other than editing config files. So much for simplicity.Here on Ubuntu Gutsy Gibbon everything works the way I want on macbook and on my home built PC, though there are of course bugs being worked on. While I thought PClinuxos was better than Kubuntu it is no way as simple and cool as Ubuntu with its default window pane compiz-fussion effect, better power history,networking graphs, and disk management tools. Ubuntu is way ahead and feels very unified and its pretty too. So I have switched to gnome but am about to install KDE 4 to test that also.
Also I think the reason it ranks so high is because of some fanatic users who are just trying to put it on top.

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fold this thread Adam Williamson  Saturday, 21 July 2007 o godz. 12:14 am #  Add karma Subtract karma  --2

compiz-fusion is not the default in any released distribution. Ubuntu has yet to make a stable release with any form of compiz enabled by default.

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fold this thread Azerthoth  Saturday, 21 July 2007 o godz. 4:26 am #  Add karma Subtract karma  +0

correction, if you want out of the box desktop effects you need look no further than Sabayon, you can use it simply by booting the livecd.

While I use PCLOS on my laptop it does have some downfalls. If you want to compile from source your in for a rough ride. Some of the sources you need for dependancy just arent available. If your in doubt try compiling fluxbox form source. Other packages have similar problems, wine was a challenge do from source but it is possible.

Still if your looking for stability and good functionality it is the best new user choice going.

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fold this thread Mousam Manna  Saturday, 21 July 2007 o godz. 11:41 pm #  Add karma Subtract karma  +1

hi guys, i have a intel windows based laptop, 2.16 gz,1 gb ram,dvd writer, can anybody tell me the step to step process howto install pclinuxos 200c,form cd,as when i tried to install it is asking the commands, and i have no knowldge about any command used at linux, so plz help me, my email id is escapein2000@yahoo.co.in

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fold this thread davecs  Sunday, 22 July 2007 o godz. 1:09 am #  Add karma Subtract karma  +1

In reply to tuomas, I am a moderator at the PCLinuxOS site, and we have actively removed threads which could in any way be seen to be encouraging people to go to distrowatch to click on our link to boost our rating.

If a large number of our users are doing that, I guess that it’s the sort of people the distro is attracting, people who possibly struggled with Linux before they switched to PCLOS or people who are windows users maybe experimenting with Linux for the first time and finding PCLOS worked for them where others didn’t, hence the high level of enthusiasm.

We’ve had loads of downloads of 2007 as well. We’re obviously doing something right.

BTW to the author, thanks for the nice write-up.

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fold this thread michuk  Sunday, 22 July 2007 o godz. 1:30 am #  Add karma Subtract karma  +0

@davecs: Thanks for you comment. We also finally added PCLinuxOS to the recommended distros on polishlinux.org (see left sidebar) with a short description: http://polishlinux.org/linux/pclinuxos/
Still PCLinuxOS is mission from the distribution comparison so if you know of anyone willing to help us prepare required information, feel free to point him to the wiki: PCLinuxOS on polishlinux wiki and edit the data.

 
 
fold this thread Gary  Sunday, 22 July 2007 o godz. 6:01 pm #  Add karma Subtract karma  +0

PCLinuxOS doesn’t need to base off of Ubuntu, they just need to provide more up-to-date kernel and HAL support. I would love to go back to PCLinuxOS, but I can’t, my wife won’t put up with some of the things that need to be done manully to get it to work on our new laptop.

Mint, with updated Kernel and HAL, just works on the new laptop. I still occasionally boot PCLinuxOS off of an external hard drive to check on hardware updates. I’ve tried the newer experimental kernel but still a no go on the hardware issues. I will continue to boot into PCLinuxOS on an ongoing basis to check on updated hardware support.

I really like Mint and plan to use that as my primary distro. Some before the end of this month they are coming out with a KDE community release based off 3.0.

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fold this thread John Pieston  Wednesday, 25 July 2007 o godz. 11:21 am #  Add karma Subtract karma  +0

I was looking for a live CD for my new laptop and downloaded PCLOS at some point , works really great and very simple, does recognise wireless , DVD drive and USB mouse , some problems with 5-in-1 card reader and unfortunately no Expresscard TV-tuner functionality .

@Gary : alas, Linux will never be a mainstream OS until wives and girlfriends can do everything by clicking (just a few) menus .

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fold this thread manmath sahu  Thursday, 6 September 2007 o godz. 7:01 am #  Add karma Subtract karma  +1

I tried PClinuxOS 2007 and Sam Linux, both are ahead of many OS counterparts such as Ubuntu and Mepis. But I am really looking forward to PCLinuxOS Gnome.

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fold this thread zacory  Monday, 10 September 2007 o godz. 2:24 pm #  Add karma Subtract karma  +1

I’m using now PCLinuxOS, because I want only use the softwares, without hammering on source codes, missing multimedia parts, partially/non working network issues, and a.s.o.
I have used many distros, but in every piece of it has bigger or smaller problems to replace out of the box Windows. Yes, I don’t want too much hassle – like in windows a day long installing to get a complete system of my needs – , I would like to see my pictures, hear my mp3′s, ogg’s, and favorite radios, contacts and mailings, RSS, backups, cd/dvd writing, TV watching and many many things. Hey, witch distro could fill this needs of the box after 20 minutes long fresh installing per pronto? Just one: PCLOS….

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fold this thread manmath sahu  Tuesday, 11 September 2007 o godz. 7:07 am #  Add karma Subtract karma  +0

PCLinuxOS 2007 needs no adulation, it’s already a hero.
Last night I downloaded its gnome remaster from linuxgator.com . I had a satisfying experience. I am really looking forward to its official gnome version. Thanks Texstar and Ripper gang!

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fold this thread manmath sahu  Tuesday, 11 September 2007 o godz. 7:09 am #  Add karma Subtract karma  +0

PCLinuxOS 2007 has a personality! If you love computing you will definitely fall in love with PCLinuxOS. Would anybody precisely tell, when its official gnome version will be released? I tried a gnome remaster from linuxgator, it was good. But I excited to see the official spin.

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fold this thread jansci  Wednesday, 26 September 2007 o godz. 12:34 pm #  Add karma Subtract karma  +0

As a newbie and an average user I just wanted an alternative OS that lets me:
1. watch videos on YouTube, CNN, ESPN
2. play online flash games
3. play DVDs and audio CD
4. type up the occasional letter, put in numbers in a spreadsheet, and make small presentations
5. read PDF files sent by clients and friends
6. download torrents and files from a P2P network
7. play some of the older windows games

I tried Ubuntu FF, but couldnt get 1 & 2.

Then I tried PCLOS and lo and behold everything works. Even installing the driver for my Nvidia card was easy. One small quirk though, each time I rebooted I had to change my monitors refresh rate. The workaround though was to login as the administrator and make changes. Then when you log back in as the user, the changes are set.

PCLOS recognized mu USB mouse, 5-in-1 card reader, and my digital camera with no problems!

As a result, I havent used XP in a while…which is a good thing!

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fold this thread Edwin  Friday, 2 November 2007 o godz. 12:13 pm #  Add karma Subtract karma  +0

I have an old Toshiba Tecra 8000 notebook 20GB harddrive and 256MB RAM, and I used to run Mandriva 2006 & 2007.0 in it. Both worked just fine in it, though 2007.0 is better. Still, it needed some tinkering to make it do what I want.

When I heard about PCLinuxOS, I decided to download the ISO and burn it. I tried the Live CD and I liked what I saw. I like it well enough that I decided to remove Mandriva 2007.0 from my machine and install PCLinuxOS. I was thinking, ¨If it doesn work I can always go back to Mandriva 2007.0 anytime I want.¨ Well, that was 3 months ago, and I still using PCLinuxOS in the notebook. Configuring ALSA is easy, and it recognized my D-Link pcmcia LAN card instantly. When I decided to plug in my 108mbps TP-Link pcmcia WLAN card, I found out that it works perfectly, after using ndiswrapper. In regards to multimedia matter, MPlayer recognized most of my files, wmv, flv, wma, etc., things that in Mandriva I had to install win32codecs first to be able to play.

Two things still do not work: my internal modem and my infrared port. I have no critical use for infrared port apart from transferring data to my cellphone (I can still do it using the USB cable that come with the cellphone and yes, PCLinuxOS instantly recognize my Siemens S81 once I connect it as USB mass storage), so actually I have no cause to complain. With my LAN and WLAN card working, I also have no need for modem (yet). It would be nice if I know how to make those two things work, though.

I am not saying that PCLinuxOS is better than Mandriva 2007.0. It is surely easier to install (much too easy I should say; I miss the details I had to do when installing Mandriva, things that gave me more feelings of being in control), easier to configure, and easier to use. It also run much faster once I remove Beryl & Compiz. Better? I need more time to get to know it as I did with Mandriva 2007.0.

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fold this thread Ehem.  Thursday, 10 January 2008 o godz. 7:26 pm #  Add karma Subtract karma  +0

PCLinux scares the carp out of me. Well, not the distro itself, persay, it’s just that I will never be as fanatic as the rest of its crazy fanbase. The community is the only thing that’s keeps me out of PCL. Some of the comments on this site alone remind me, not of a Linux distro, but a cult or a religion.

Perhaps I’ll give’r a try later, but I’ll stick with Ubuntu and Fedora for now.

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fold this thread jazran  Sunday, 22 June 2008 o godz. 2:16 pm #  Add karma Subtract karma  +0

oh well every distro has it’s crazy fan base.good luck for ubuntu and fedora….their scary fan base makes me giggles… and let them say whatever they wanna say.bwahahha

 
 
fold this thread Dimensions  Saturday, 19 September 2009 o godz. 10:30 am #  Add karma Subtract karma  +0

We use two derivatives of Linux, Puppy Linux and PCLinuxOS. Puppy Linux is clearly the fastest Operating System we have ever used. It is shrunk and streamlined for amazing performance. Although it is requires some learning of Linux to use, it is very user friendly, often taking the time to alert the user as to what it is up to, as well as polite, subsequently asking for permission to continue. The community found at the online forum is by far the one of the most outstanding and friendly ones we have found. It is an excellent way to learn the world of Linux.

PCLinuxOS is also fast, owing to it’s i586 compiled arcitecture, although not as fast as Puppy. In exchange, it is sizeable and full featured, requiring little to no knowledge of Linux and working out of the box for most contemporary hardware. It is for people who just want an excellent operating system without having to learn new tricks.

Some of the most popular applications for Windows have originated from Linux. Firefox, which has revolutionized web browsers, is a Linux child. Windows users also regularly use OpenOffice, GIMP, and Filezilla to name a few. One of the primary concerns for people switching from Windows is parting with their familiar Windows programs. Have no fear, for Linux comes with an excellent Windows emulator, called Wine. We run Photoshop CS and World of Warcraft with no complications or fear of viruses or spyware which haunt Windows users!

We have also compiled Wine geared to Pentium, Opteron, and Athlon processors for PCLinuxOS. Contact us if you would like help with any of these. We can even burn a Live Installer CD for Linux and send it to you. Welcome to the world of Linux!

Read the original article:
http://x-dimension.net/Extras/Linux/index.html

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