Ubuntu 7.10 Gutsy Gibbon: Critical review
[ Thursday, 18 October 2007, michuk ]
Ubuntu 7.10 Gutsy Gibbon has been released today. I haven’t tested any alpha or beta versions of the new product from Canonical. I have decided to wait for the Release Candidate, since this has proved to work for me in the past. In short: it did not disappoint me. The new Ubuntu is more polished, more professional and in general, better than the previous one, which was already a great OS. Minor glitches? Present, as always.
Author: Borys Musielak
Installation
There are two installation options: from a live CD and from an alternative CD. I chose the latter since I wanted to examine all options, not just the default ones selected for newcomers in the Live-CD installer. I am not put off by text-mode installers (hey, I’ve been using Debian for years!) and I like to have control over what I install on my computer, thus the alternate CD is just for me.
I have not noticed anything suspicious during the installation. It went smoothly, although I wish it was faster. Installing the packages seemed to take forever. On my still-quite-modern computer it took something like 45 minutes to get the system up and running — certainly too much.
Selection of apps
The applications installed by default in Ubuntu did not change dramatically from the previous release. We still have Firefox for web browsing, OpenOffice.org as the main office suite, Pidgin (old name: Gaim) for instant messaging, Evolution for e-mail, Rhythmbox for music, Totem for video and the GIMP for image manipulation. There are also little apps for image viewing, sound recording and creating audio CDs. Nothing too surprising. Rather conservative choices, I would say.
A program I would like to mention is Disk Usage Analyzer (also known as Baobab). This nice little tool can graphically represent the unused space on all of our partitions as well as remote filesystems (available via SSH, FTP, DAV, Windows share and other). It resembles Filelight, a KDE app created for the same purpose. I only wish it remembered the scanned folders after closing it and opening again. Currently it requires a re-scan each time.
There was one more nice add-on in the Gutsy release. I’m not an expert in fonts but I have noticed a considerable difference in font displaying, at least in Firefox. They look better. No idea why, but they do. It seems they are sharper and the anti-aliasing is not as high as before. I have a suspicion that they look more Windows-like now. Well, take a look at these two screenshots of polishlinux.org — the first is under Feisty Fawn, second under Gutsy Gibbon.
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Pic. Font rendering in Firefox: Feisty on the left, Gutsy on the right
Localization
I’m Polish. I want to use Polish TODO diacritics signs when I write stuff. As I installed Ubuntu in offline mode (I did not have access to the Internet at the time) I did not get any locale-specific packages. Fortunately, when I connected it sufficed to go to System->Administration->Languages, set “Polish” and apply. It automatically installed Polish localization for GNOME and other apps like Firefox and OpenOffice.org together with a Polish aspell dictionary and such. Great! After rebooting I was enjoying the user interface in my native language. Just after that I wanted to write some post on a Polish Linux website and… I experienced a zonk: I could not type Polish! This was because the right Alt key in combination with letters like ‘a’, ‘n’ or ‘o’ did not produce Polish-specific letters like ‘ą’, ‘ń’ or ‘ó’. I solved the problem by issuing: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg. The two errors were:
- keyboard type was set to ‘us’ instead of ‘pl’,
- keyboard options were set to ‘lv3:lalt_switch’ (for whatever reason) instead of blank.
Applying the changes and restarting the X server with CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE helped. I suspect the reason Ubuntu messed up the configuration was that I used the automatic keyboard detection during the installation. It ordered me to type multiple letters and then figured out my keyboard type. Apparently the guess was far from right
This was a minor problem for me since I knew what to do to fix it. I guess that for a newcomer this could be a stopper. I hope that the keyboard detector works better in the Live-CD version, as well.
One more strange thing concerning the localization is that… folder names are now localized as well. “Desktop” disappeared from my home folder and it has been replaced with “Pulpit” (which is the Polish word for it). It’s probably a good and natural thing to do. In Windows these have been localized for ages. Still, to me this is an unnecessary trouble.
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Pic. Localized folder names in Nautilus
Using Ubuntu 7.10
During the first run, Ubuntu told me that my battery sucks (which is true) and that in order to use some hardware I need to enable restricted drivers. I didn’t even realize I have some hardware that requires it in my laptop. It turned out to be an internal modem which I have never used, and don’t plan to in the near future.
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Pic. Useful information about computer hardware
Knowing that only few essential codecs are installed by default, I tried playing some DVD movies and listening to some music I had on my hard drive. Totem told me that I cannot play DVDs because I did not have “appropriate plugin” and offered me to install one. I could not test if it worked out because I was not connected and the file it wanted to get was not present on the installation CD (for legal reasons, I understand).
Rhythmbox was not even that nice. When I told it to import my Music folder it started to throw errors on every file scanned! It said that “gstreamer plugins to decode MP3 files cannot be found”. I know exactly what it means and that in order to fix that I need to search for “gstreamer mp3″ in Synaptic and install the right plugin. A newbie will have no idea what the guy is talking about. What’s “gstreamer”? Why is it trying to “decode” something when I just want to play music? Why can’t it find the freaking MP3 thing? Is it broken or what?
Don’t misunderstand me — I know very well why MP3 support is not on by default in Ubuntu. The newbie user, however, doesn’t have a clue. Perhaps it would be a good idea to let them know instead of frustrating him with error messages he will never understand.
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Pic. Rhythmbox — no MP3 support but great OGG playback
After all, I could only play my OGG music files, which is understood. One thing that surprised me was that after accidentally pressing a special key — “volume up” — on my laptop keyboard … it just worked. So did, as I immediately checked, other multimedia keys: play/still, stop, forward, backward and mute. And a nice graphical symbol appeared when I was playing with the sound. Simply incredible
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Pic. Nice Compiz widget for volume manipulation
The next things I wanted to examine were the battery options. First, I tried suspending the laptop. It went to sleep immediately, and after waking up a GNOME password dialog appeared (same as the one that appears after locking the screen). I entered the password and saw this:
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Pic. My desktop after waking up from suspend mode
The system apparently woke up, because just after pressing “enter” the music came back and all seemed to function fine. Well, aside from the Picasso-looking desktop I had in front of me. After a few tries, I figured out the one responsible: Compiz. Now I know that before suspending or hibernating my Ubuntu box I need to press ALT+F2 and enter the command metacity --replace. This kills Compiz window manager and goes back to the traditional one. Metacity does not try to impress me with a cubist desktop. It just wakes up and allows me to work. I didn’t think that getting Compiz back up would be a problem after the computer was back to work. Wrong! Getting back to Compiz, I get the Picasso again! So this is screwed up for good, I thought. I killed Compiz and have never thought about it since then.
One more issue with suspend/hibernate… the wifi network. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn’t. If it’s down, the only way to get it back seems to be through restarting the dbus subsystem:
sudo /etc/init.d/dbus restart.
This usually does the job. If not, try the same command a few times. Finally it catches.
What else? Well… not too much, actually. I installed ubuntu-restricted-extras and Windows fonts to get all the fancy non-free software that everyone but RMS uses on their Linux boxes. I also installed Liferea, PSI messenger and Opera — which are my apps of choice for RSS, IM and browsing — and got back to work.
Summary of pros and cons
Here is a short summary of all the nice surprises and those unfortunate events I experienced during my work on the latest Ubuntu. I know some of you only read the lists and tables so I tried to make this a comprehensive list.
Positives:
- WiFi support with WEP during system installation (even in console mode!)
- System speed and responsiveness, both boot-up and actual work with the OS is way faster than in the previous release.
- Eventually it detected my widescreen monitor and set it up correctly during the installation (I almost got used to 600×400 resolution with my new Ubuntu boxes already :P)
- Sensible 3D effects selection: not too fancy; just enough to give Ubuntu a modern yet professional look and feel.
- Tracker (full-text file search) works without any actions. No complaints, yet.
- Automatic detection of existing systems, proper GRUB configuration.
- Automatic detection and mounting of all system partitions (including the NTFS one).
- Option to install the OS on encrypted partitions (available only when installing from the Alternate CD as I did) — this is a real killer-feature!
- Fonts (in Firefox) look even better
- No problem with repositories in this release. All are easy to activate and there was no need to manually enter new ones to get non-free add-ons and other proprietary software like Opera or Adobe Reader.
Negatives:
- For a beginner: still too hard to get DVD playback, MP3 support and all other stuff that almost everyone uses and needs anyway.
- Hibernate, suspend: if activated it should work. It does work on my laptop — I’m sure about that since it worked in Feisty Fawn. Thus, either do not activate Compiz for my laptop or make it work with sleep options!
No easy way to turn Compiz off and replace it with Metacity (and no explanation why in some cases this should be a preferable option)(update: just go to Preferences-> Apperarance -> “Visual Effects” and select “NONE”, thanks to Sean for this, I must have been blind)
Final thoughts
After all that, I’m happy with Ubuntu 7.10 Gutsy Gibbon. The installation has been so far very usable — not a single stability issue during the testing week! The problems that occurred were very easy for me to solve (but remember — I’m an experienced Linux user grown up on Debian, so I’m used to playing around with dpkg and such). It looks like the Ubuntu team spent a lot of time polishing the details for the Gutsy release, which is a rare case in the world of Linux distributions. Still, a newcomer used to Windows won’t be able to use the system without assistance or at least some Google searching. I’m not saying it’s very bad, I’m just saying that in order to set it up, a neighborhood geek is still required. After it’s up and running, not even Auntie Debbie should experience any major issues.
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For me big disappointment is fact that 2.6.22 kernel has some troubles with my notebook. I understand that this is not ubuntu team fault, but still in feisty they pathed it. It is unusable because neither acpi-cpufreq nor speedstep-centrino is working (formerly it was the later that works), and notebook fan is buzzing at high speed as processor is working at maximal frequency…
> For me big disappointment is fact that 2.6.22 kernel has
> some troubles with my notebook … It is unusable because
> neither acpi-cpufreq nor speedstep-centrino is working
> … and notebook fan is buzzing at high speed as
> processor is working at maximal frequency
… same here. My HP nx5000 won’t even shut down or restart with Ubuntu 7.10. I hope very much that this will be fixed soon because in its current state Gutsy is unusable for me.
Bummer! I had the same problem on feisty. Just wouldn’t work on some of my pc’s. It was fixed in gutsy.
I’d really like to encourage you guys to try some of the test releases next time. Then file a bug report at launchpad if you get these kinda problems so the ubuntu team can rectify it before the final release.
Testing a distro and making sure it runs on all kinds of hardware is a really big task and your input just makes it a lot easier and results in a better OS for everyone.
I also had these issues in feisty and gutsy with my Centrino 1,6G HP nx6110. All the change-freq-applets shown an no-speedstep-support erro. Problem was solved with removing apmd (leave acpi), installing powernowd [which fully supports not only AMD CPUs, but Intels too and then install emifreq-applet. All is working good.
Ha, ha, ha! Asshole! If you can’t sort that out maybe you should go back to Windows! Dummy! And learn to write properly in English or stay in rotten Russia, dumbass!
Are you kidding me? Are you actually that bigoted and ignorant? I do hope that you can learn to offer something a little more productive than hate-mongering. Not everyone has English as their first (or second) language. Learn to be more tolerant and understanding. And remind me again of what site this is? POLISH Linux.Org? Perhaps that first word (capitalized and separated it for you, in case you didn’t comprehend) might give you a hint.
(hehe, he thought it was “polish”, as in what one might do to a car >.
It actually is.
“No easy way to turn Compiz off and replace it with Metacity (and no explanation why in some cases this should be a preferable option)”
I think thats no completly right,
Just go to Preferences-> Apperarance -> “Visual Effects” and select “NONE”
this should completly turn of compiz and use metacity as window manager.
You are right. Still the fact I could not find it easily (as a 3-year Ubuntu user) makes it hard to call it “user-friendly”.
Or perhaps I’m just blind.
PS. I updated the article.
yes thx for the reference, that sometimes happens even with the most skilled eyes
….btw. I was kinda disappointed myself, finding no option to configure the effects.
well maybe I’m goin’ blind as well
Actually, if you install compizconfig-settings-manager from the universe repository, you have access to a ridiculous amount of options (at least this worked for me last night while test driving the live cd). I found that info from:
http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2007/10/04/compiz-fusion-on-ubuntu-710-gutsy-gibbin/
This option was also in the same place in Feisty, except by default the visual effects were turned off so a lot of people probably never noticed it.
What laptop (model) do you have?
HP dv1074ea
Just installed it on a dell X1 latitude, works perfectly out of the box.
I have to say, it’s the first time a linux distribution works out of the box for this machine
Locale settings work for me, I have a spanish+french+german+english+chinese simpl. linux box - tough some trouble with SCIM.
If you didn’t already, install gutsy!!!
Thanks for the tip about restarting wifi after waking from suspend. I figured that something had to be restarted, but never could figure out what it was.
Oh well…i would like to play with ubuntu but My Dell inspiron 1100 with 845 chipset rejects almost every distro. Ubuntu 7.10 was no different. Just PClinuxos and dreamlinux can run on it.
Try Puppy Linux!
I love it!
The only Ubuntu version I have had work on my Dell 1100 (without issues) is Dapper - (and previous Ubuntu versions) it seems the later versions have hardware issues with this notebook - must be getting time to get a new computer. Dapper has my OS of choice since it came out.
I have tried PClinix but it kept crashing
OpenSuse worked well but was slow compared to Ubuntu
I have an Inspiron 1100 with 7.10 running without problems (other than the Wifi card is a bit moody).
You have to install in safe graphics mode, then press f6 and add “nolapic acpi-off” to the install params (before the –).
I’d also make sure to get the bios up to date. You can flash it to A22, then to A32 (can’t do the whole jump at once).
My only real issue is that it takes eons to boot up, but other than that, it’s made use out of a tired old laptop.
I am no Ubuntu freak, but I just wish to compliment you on a very good review. 9 out of 10 reviews are written in the style ‘I popped in the CD, it actually installed and OOOH, it is SOOO good’!
You actually highlighted the good and the bad in a concise and clear way. Very good!
I would love for you to review MEPIS 7 when it goes final, would love to hear your opinion.
Cheers
Critics are everywhere…
mp3, dvd, and all the other restricted drivers are as-easy-as-possible to install. especially all this video-codec-stuff - as a windows-user you have to look and search for yourself for the correct driver (or at least the correct driver-package if you know that they exist).
in ubuntu - since 7.04 you just opened a video and it tells you that it has to install something out of the internet to show this video. well, windows says the same without even doing anything, ubuntu just downloads the correct codes and not 2 minutes later you watch the video with the codec you didn´t had before.
you dont even have to know WHICH codec you installed, it just works.
the same with mp3´s - yesterday i put up my new 7.10 and i just had to nod “yes” one time, enter my password and could listen to all the music i had on my pc. when i installed amarok (my favorite mp3-player) i had to do the same another time again but then it also worked. so i would say that it was never easier to get a system running than the new ubuntu
I was testing these features with no Internet connection. And when I got connected I just wanted to install all at once. I found no easy way to do it. Of course I knew about the
ubuntu-restricted-extraspackage but if I didn’t I would be stuck.Well we’re all complaining but it’s the best GNU/Linux system I have encountered so far anyway. And way easier than Windows XP or Vista (there I never know how to install anything without taking the risk to get affected by malware) — that’s for sure
Very good review. Your review summarized my experience. I did one more thing which is to go and select 1280X1024 resolution to make my desktop appear larger. This distro was really polished.. The package manager may be slow right now as tons of folks are all trying to get their updates at the sametime.
This release blew me away like dapper drake first did to me.
Thank you for the detailed review.
I realize that this is subjective, but one of the things I don’t like about Ubuntu is the thin, wire-like fonts. I want my fonts to look more like a Mac’s fonts than Windows. Fedora’s fonts are fuller, more like the Mac’s. On Fiesty, I can get better looking fonts by turning down the hinting to Slight, or None - this helps quite a bit on Firefox. But the fonts on the GNOME menus then appear a jagged - thin in some places, full in others. Ug!
I like everything about Ubuntu - just the fonts. I’ll try Gutsy and see if the Hinting configuration helps more than in Fiesty. But from the look of the Firefox screenshots in the review, it looks like Ubuntu’s font philosophy at least, is tending even more toward wirey Windows-like font appearance. :/ I don’t mind what defaults the Ubuntu team chooses, just give me the ability to return my fonts to something that looks fuller - with recognizable shapes / glyphs. Windows XP’s shoddy handling of fonts is not something to be emulated.
Hi use these:
http://linuxmint.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3499
all credits to the original poster @ the mint forum. Works pretty good and looks gorgeous.
Anyhow I agree with you on your fonts opinion.
When you consider that it takes the neighborhood geek to get a windows box up and running, saying that it takes the neighborhood geek to get Ubuntu up and running isn’t really all that descriptive.
You could, however, say that it takes less time for the neighborhood geek to get Ubuntu up and running than to get Windows up and running (we’re talking from scratch here), or that it takes your computer-savvy teenage son to set it up, or the average person who isn’t put off by technical details.
Which brings up another question that doesn’t require an immediate answer, but should be addressed by anyone distributing linux or any software product: How can we (the linux community) present the technical details to beginners in a beginner-friendly manner?
Provide documentation with not just the how-to, but the why-to. I am new to the Linux community and I can often times find out how to do something, but I rarely find a description of why I am doing what I am doing. For instance:
Why does restartig the dbus subsystem make the problem go away? I don’t mean to sound like I am critizing Borys. He did a very good review. I am just saying that, as a newbie, I would like to see a little more information of the why so that I can learn a little faster.
restarting the dbus subsytem restarts NetworkManager which is the program which controls the wireless network connection.
I have had a ton of problems in gutsy with wireless (I upgraded a month after fiesty’s release which was probably a bad idea). I have a script which I use when nothing else works:
sudo iwconfig eth1 essid $1 || exit 1
iwconfig eth1
sudo dhclient3 eth1 || exit 1
ifconfig eth1
However, Gutsy was the first release since Dapper that allowed me to hibernate my Sony VAIO VGN-250E
well, you know there are some copyright stuffs linux guys have to consider. Anyway, for those who want to skip the hassles, just install Automatix2. This is the number one priority task for a Ubuntu user.
Finally, I want to say thanks to the reviewer. It’s a nice and well written review imo.
I did not want to use Automatix2 since I had bad experience with this software. It appeared to mess up my systems (and I was not the only example). Ubuntu-restricted-extras package solves it all anyway.
DO NOT install Automatix 2… It’s the worst thing you can do to your system…
Want to upgrade it later? Bummer, you installed Automatix, it’ll be hosed. Need to do larger changes to your system (Like installing another Desktop Environment)? Bummer, you installed Automatix, it’ll be hosed.
The worst part is that Ubuntu will be blamed, just because some morons decided not to use the standard system, but to screw with the systems inner workings instead… FOR ABSOLUTELY NO NEED! All of what Automatix does could easily have been done by adding a simple repository…
I better repeat again, if you want a stable, upgradable system, DO NOT use Automatix.
about MP3 i think i have read that vlc-player is working for linux. i never really used linux before
Im in love of a Gusty Gibbon, as simple as that. I like all the eye Candy they put in here! I spend most of my time just checking that, I dont have a much powerful PC with a just regular 128 Graphic card and still most of the effects (Except the Rain ones) shows smoothly and without problems. With this Release, everyone can have a showy Operative System
Ubuntu 7.10 is the only distro I’ve used that worked with my Ralink wireless USB card without any configuration at all. Before I downloaded Ubuntu I was messing around with other distros for weeks trying, to no avail, to get my card up and running. Thanks Ubuntu!
This is an excellent review which reflects my experience loading Gutsy.
Since I wanted a good idea on how well an average user could install and setup this very much anticipated distribution, I gave it to 3 moderately computer literate high school students with no Linux knowledge and let them load it on a 500mhz tower. With almost no supervision, they setup and ran in only a short while, with static IP addressing and security updates done.
Their comments: “Cool, but how do I play my music?”, “Where do you go to play movies,” and “It’s brown!” I realize the legal issues involved. Nevertheless, this is as close to an “it just works” operating system as I have seen.
Thanks for your tips on gstreamer and compizconfig.
Just curious have you tried/checked System/Preferences/Keyboard to set your polish keyboard instead of modifying your xorg configuration?
Oops.. I guess I still need to get used to the GUI way in Ubuntu…
Or they need to have a more friendly Control Panel..
Or both
No, haven’t tried it.
“Applying the changes and restarting the X server with CTRL+ALT+DEL helped.”
Shouldn’t it be CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE to restart the X server?
Of course I meant it. Fixed.
Try to open a mp3 file in totem first then try Rhythmbox
Ubuntu Gutsy is better than Feisty. Still not perfect, but a whole lot better. For me, it does not blow up on takeoff (after install Feisty wouldn’t boot off the hdd, Gutsy does), and most everything works as expected. Its well polished. Could possibly be better, but already a marked improvement. (Sound of corks popping for the latest Ubuntu).
This is a good review. I like the way you make your points and actually give me some information.
There is one question I have not only for you but authors of reviews in general … what difference does the installation time make? I only install once and not every time I boot.
Installation time matters to me only in a relative sense. Though I haven’t installed Gutsy Gibbon yet, if it were to take me this author’s same 45 minutes, I would be dissatisfied because my Mepis and PCLinuxOS installations took at least 10 minutes less than that.
However, I also agree with the “I only install once and not every time I boot” comment. A slow install would bother me, but I’m sensible enough to know that it’s a one-off issue. Still, if one full-featured Linux install can take me around 30-35 minutes, I want to know why they all can’t, and (if all other aspects are relatively equal) I might tend to recommend the distros with shorter install times to my friends.