Comments on: What’s coming in Ubuntu 8.10? http://polishlinux.org/linux/ubuntu/whats-new-in-ubuntu-810/ All About GNU/Linux and BSD - reviews, comparisons, articles Mon, 15 Mar 2010 09:13:46 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 By: arabdude http://polishlinux.org/linux/ubuntu/whats-new-in-ubuntu-810/#comment-126579 arabdude Wed, 19 Nov 2008 18:49:09 +0000 http://polishlinux.org/linux/ubuntu/whats-new-in-ubuntu-810/#comment-126579 well let me give you my 2 cents, iam 3d artist and been working under windows for a long time...since zbrush came out i had many crashes under xp and i figured why not try Linux put my software on it do my work when done switch back ..so i downloaded Ubuntu..from the start my graphic card didn't work so i spent 6 hours reading forums posting on forums etc and this what it came down 2..fuck linux and fuck everyone that tells you its easy blah blah ... 1)the linux community sucks, i posted my simple issue on the ubuntu forum and i got 476 views and one answer (have you tried to run the live cd in safe mode ?) REALLY. 2)the solution to my problem was using Xubuntu with sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg which until now i have no idea what it means so i really don't understand the part about Linux for human beings because its not .. 3)now try installing maya..yep it wont install ...solution http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=66859 6 pages of scripts,apps and workarounds which you could have done with 6 clicks in windows.so after all of that i just gave up i had 7 post on the ubuntu forums with no answers even to simple things like why the fk don't i have audio..but that was 2 years ago..why am i typing this then. well i was working on this project and it crashed and the file is dead and if you have ever done any 3d you know how much time and effort that takes,so i got very angry and went to the MAC site but i couldn't get my self to get MAC(way to much money for a brand) so i started looking online for solutions and i came across something called pclinuxos which is Linux distro but with windows similarities, i was so excited that backed up my data re sized my drive portioned and installed and what do you know, it wont boot up just stops half way through. so i went to their forums signed up and guess what you cant use their forums after you sign up NO , YOU HAVE TO WAIT TO GET VERIFIED..wtf...and again 234 view and one reply(disable legacy...WHAT) so i went ahead and tried that and it didn't work, i had to read forums all night and post on forums to the get the solution and after all that i got it to install just to get stuck trying to install java(errors..go root then get blah blah ..finally got it to work ..so whats next...nothing i was happy i restarted and went to make a cup of tea, came back loged in and now i have a black screen with 2 blue dots in it so iam not even going to bother... long story short i agree with all the people that said Linux is harder than many people think with almost no community support and a lack of everything(software,support, and not even compatibility with hardware..) so yes i agree with dave don't listen to Linux fans when they its easy and better because its not...and before you do anything with Linux ask your self this (do you know how to use cmd in windows to do everything you do with a mouse?do you know what any of this is: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg) if the answer is no then don't even think about Linux...anyway iam going to go and install windows xp back on.. The-Arab-Dude well let me give you my 2 cents, iam 3d artist and been working under windows for a long time…since zbrush came out i had many crashes under xp and i figured why not try Linux put my software on it do my work when done switch back ..so i downloaded Ubuntu..from the start my graphic card didn’t work so i spent 6 hours reading forums posting on forums etc and this what it came down 2..fuck linux and fuck everyone that tells you its easy blah blah …
1)the linux community sucks, i posted my simple issue on the ubuntu forum and i got 476 views and one answer (have you tried to run the live cd in safe mode ?) REALLY.
2)the solution to my problem was using Xubuntu with sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg which until now i have no idea what it means so i really don’t understand the part about Linux for human beings because its not ..
3)now try installing maya..yep it wont install …solution
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=66859 6 pages of scripts,apps and workarounds which you could have done with 6 clicks in windows.so after all of that i just gave up i had 7 post on the ubuntu forums with no answers even to simple things like why the fk don’t i have audio..but that was 2 years ago..why am i typing this then.
well i was working on this project and it crashed and the file is dead and if you have ever done any 3d you know how much time and effort that takes,so i got very angry and went to the MAC site but i couldn’t get my self to get MAC(way to much money for a brand) so i started looking online for solutions and i came across something called pclinuxos which is Linux distro but with windows similarities, i was so excited that backed up my data re sized my drive portioned and installed and what do you know, it wont boot up just stops half way through. so i went to their forums signed up and guess what you cant use their forums after you sign up NO , YOU HAVE TO WAIT TO GET VERIFIED..wtf…and again 234 view and one reply(disable legacy…WHAT) so i went ahead and tried that and it didn’t work, i had to read forums all night and post on forums to the get the solution and after all that i got it to install just to get stuck trying to install java(errors..go root then get blah blah ..finally got it to work ..so whats next…nothing i was happy i restarted and went to make a cup of tea, came back loged in and now i have a black screen with 2 blue dots in it so iam not even going to bother…
long story short i agree with all the people that said Linux is harder than many people think with almost no community support and a lack of everything(software,support, and not even compatibility with hardware..) so yes i agree with dave don’t listen to Linux fans when they its easy and better because its not…and before you do anything with Linux ask your self this (do you know how to use cmd in windows to do everything you do with a mouse?do you know what any of this is: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg) if the answer is no then don’t even think about Linux…anyway iam going to go and install windows xp back on..
The-Arab-Dude

]]> By: Jose http://polishlinux.org/linux/ubuntu/whats-new-in-ubuntu-810/#comment-126360 Jose Sat, 15 Nov 2008 19:29:14 +0000 http://polishlinux.org/linux/ubuntu/whats-new-in-ubuntu-810/#comment-126360 I remember when I first got into Ubuntu. Man... I've never read so many forums in my life. I spent about a week reading forums trying to find solutions to all kinds of problems I ran into, from installation to graphics to sound to connections, to installing programs etc. At least I know how to search the web for solutions, but most people don't, and most don't even have the time or motivation to do it. Finally I had enought of that bullshit and switched back to XP. I remember when I first got into Ubuntu. Man… I’ve never read so many forums in my life. I spent about a week reading forums trying to find solutions to all kinds of problems I ran into, from installation to graphics to sound to connections, to installing programs etc. At least I know how to search the web for solutions, but most people don’t, and most don’t even have the time or motivation to do it. Finally I had enought of that bullshit and switched back to XP.

]]> By: rusty b'dos http://polishlinux.org/linux/ubuntu/whats-new-in-ubuntu-810/#comment-125510 rusty b'dos Sun, 26 Oct 2008 22:42:28 +0000 http://polishlinux.org/linux/ubuntu/whats-new-in-ubuntu-810/#comment-125510 all the way buddy vista sucks, and if you think of the great package u get u harly believe its free! and with more stable versions of wine hq coming out i think we could ditch most of microsoft. office '07 is decent anyway thats my opinion all the way buddy vista sucks, and if you think of the great package u get u harly believe its free! and with more stable versions of wine hq coming out i think we could ditch most of microsoft. office ‘07 is decent anyway
thats my opinion

]]> By: Review_again http://polishlinux.org/linux/ubuntu/whats-new-in-ubuntu-810/#comment-125492 Review_again Sat, 25 Oct 2008 10:25:26 +0000 http://polishlinux.org/linux/ubuntu/whats-new-in-ubuntu-810/#comment-125492 I have been using Linux on and off for a few years. I use windows xp and Ubuntu on a dual-boot. I like both. I would probably switch entirely to the Linux OS if the graphical driver issues were resolved. It is a little disconcerting that I cannot use the best graphics available in Ubuntu because I seem unable to find the correct driver for my Nvidia system. No problems with Windows XP or even Vista. This should be the very first fix ...... no doubt! I have been using Linux on and off for a few years. I use windows xp and Ubuntu on a dual-boot. I like both. I would probably switch entirely to the Linux OS if the graphical driver issues were resolved. It is a little disconcerting that I cannot use the best graphics available in Ubuntu because I seem unable to find the correct driver for my Nvidia system. No problems with Windows XP or even Vista. This should be the very first fix …… no doubt!

]]> By: forbzie http://polishlinux.org/linux/ubuntu/whats-new-in-ubuntu-810/#comment-124999 forbzie Fri, 10 Oct 2008 08:24:37 +0000 http://polishlinux.org/linux/ubuntu/whats-new-in-ubuntu-810/#comment-124999 I agree with Dave. Linux is great and free! but most linux users cant accept it when something goes wrong with linux. I also work in IT and have used Linux / Windows on and off for several years. Windows XP SP2 has a more stable graphical environment and its faster too. Linux will crash if you run too many X windows apps at once. I also agree with the point he makes about the graphics not working. I have had endless problems with linux not picking up the graphics card, indeed i have managed to fix these issues via google and forums fairly easy but the point is: with windows, you just point click, then click Next and its done. In linux, you have to edit config files and restart X server etc... when no average gives a s*** about all that. Users just like it simple and dont have to time to recompile and edit files all day. That said, i still use ubuntu but mostly vista now. I agree with Dave.

Linux is great and free! but most linux users cant accept it when something goes wrong with linux. I also work in IT and have used Linux / Windows on and off for several years.

Windows XP SP2 has a more stable graphical environment and its faster too. Linux will crash if you run too many X windows apps at once. I also agree with the point he makes about the graphics not working. I have had endless problems with linux not picking up the graphics card, indeed i have managed to fix these issues via google and forums fairly easy but the point is: with windows, you just point click, then click Next and its done. In linux, you have to edit config files and restart X server etc… when no average gives a s*** about all that. Users just like it simple and dont have to time to recompile and edit files all day.

That said, i still use ubuntu but mostly vista now.

]]> By: Francis http://polishlinux.org/linux/ubuntu/whats-new-in-ubuntu-810/#comment-124992 Francis Fri, 10 Oct 2008 02:28:07 +0000 http://polishlinux.org/linux/ubuntu/whats-new-in-ubuntu-810/#comment-124992 The thing that most people forget is that Ubuntu and Linux in general are all doing an incredible job of making it work in hardware that was not designed for it. Hardware vendors are sure not helping out in making linux compatible. Windows will work 98% of the time in a Windows compatible hardware, now try to put Windows in a non-Windows certified hardware (like Mac hardware) then I'm sure these users will all be pulling their hair trying to make Windows work. I love Ubuntu, but unfortunately for average users, it does take a lot of tinkering to make it work just right. However, I've seen how quickly Ubuntu (started with 6.06) has evolved to make it more easier to adapt to a new machine. And remember, all this for free. The thing that most people forget is that Ubuntu and Linux in general are all doing an incredible job of making it work in hardware that was not designed for it. Hardware vendors are sure not helping out in making linux compatible. Windows will work 98% of the time in a Windows compatible hardware, now try to put Windows in a non-Windows certified hardware (like Mac hardware) then I’m sure these users will all be pulling their hair trying to make Windows work.

I love Ubuntu, but unfortunately for average users, it does take a lot of tinkering to make it work just right. However, I’ve seen how quickly Ubuntu (started with 6.06) has evolved to make it more easier to adapt to a new machine.

And remember, all this for free.

]]> By: Ian Hutchinson http://polishlinux.org/linux/ubuntu/whats-new-in-ubuntu-810/#comment-124824 Ian Hutchinson Sat, 04 Oct 2008 16:20:21 +0000 http://polishlinux.org/linux/ubuntu/whats-new-in-ubuntu-810/#comment-124824 I just hope they've sorted Pulseaudio in this version. There was all sorts of problems with it when upgrading from 7.10 to 8.04 which lead me to having to reinstall the whole system. Even so, theres problems getting apps like Skype to work and theres problems with Flash which really wont be easy for folks new to Linux to sort out. Guys like me love their music, so its kind of a turnoff to have to sort all the issues though. Nonetheless, I love Ubuntu and I've been using it since March/April this year :D I just hope they’ve sorted Pulseaudio in this version. There was all sorts of problems with it when upgrading from 7.10 to 8.04 which lead me to having to reinstall the whole system.

Even so, theres problems getting apps like Skype to work and theres problems with Flash which really wont be easy for folks new to Linux to sort out.

Guys like me love their music, so its kind of a turnoff to have to sort all the issues though. Nonetheless, I love Ubuntu and I’ve been using it since March/April this year :D

]]> By: Dan http://polishlinux.org/linux/ubuntu/whats-new-in-ubuntu-810/#comment-124521 Dan Thu, 25 Sep 2008 04:50:27 +0000 http://polishlinux.org/linux/ubuntu/whats-new-in-ubuntu-810/#comment-124521 I've been reading along here from the top of the comments. And maybe I missed the point here but I feel like adding my two cents. If I were the non-average Windows user who didn't know how to find answers to my problems via the web browser; then I'd say he wouldn't know about the latest feature in Ubuntu unless he read every install readme file and knew where to look for answers on the web. Even in my line of work, some days I feel like the hare in the race against the tortoise. There are some really slow learning people out there, who've I got to say (under my breath), "Well, bless your heart." [A case of ID10.t] Instead of yelling at them to catchup, I got to remember my days on a 486 PC with Windows 3.1 and even before some younger folks' time, I luckily got to work on my Dad's Digital computer with tape drives to load to just start the "DOS" command prompt. I can still smell the white plastic chassis and black trim without having it here. I’ve been reading along here from the top of the comments. And maybe I missed the point here but I feel like adding my two cents.

If I were the non-average Windows user who didn’t know how to find answers to my problems via the web browser; then I’d say he wouldn’t know about the latest feature in Ubuntu unless he read every install readme file and knew where to look for answers on the web.

Even in my line of work, some days I feel like the hare in the race against the tortoise. There are some really slow learning people out there, who’ve I got to say (under my breath), “Well, bless your heart.” [A case of ID10.t]

Instead of yelling at them to catchup, I got to remember my days on a 486 PC with Windows 3.1 and even before some younger folks’ time, I luckily got to work on my Dad’s Digital computer with tape drives to load to just start the “DOS” command prompt.

I can still smell the white plastic chassis and black trim without having it here.

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