Comments on: Business vs Community: Xandros and PCLinuxOS compared http://polishlinux.org/linux/xandros/business-vs-community-xandros-and-pclinuxos-compared/ All About GNU/Linux and BSD - reviews, comparisons, articles Thu, 18 Mar 2010 02:24:41 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 By: JJ http://polishlinux.org/linux/xandros/business-vs-community-xandros-and-pclinuxos-compared/#comment-120460 JJ Fri, 25 Apr 2008 16:30:03 +0000 http://polishlinux.org/linux/xandros/business-vs-community-xandros-and-pclinuxos-compared/#comment-120460 You act like if you go with Ubuntu you have to use GNOME! That's only partially true. Like all distros I've seen Ubuntu actually supports the common DEs; GNOME, KDE, and Xcfe. They just got 'smart' and named them differently based on the DE they use. Ubuntu was the first and started out with GNOME, Kubuntu is Ubuntu with a KDE desktop, and Xubuntu is Ubuntu with the Xcfe desktop, sadly this article isn't about Ubuntu, so I'll end that part there. Anyway at first I also wondered why compare commercial to non-commercial distros. Than I remembered the discussions of Linux vs. MacOSX or Linux vs. Windoze. It's almost the same thing. Even though in those they are comparing different OSes, they are still comparing a generally free OS to a completely non-free OS. So yeah, to me it started to make since to compare the two. I'm usually pretty weary around a) Linux that acts like Windows, and b) commercial Linux distros. I haven't had Linux for a year yet, but something just doesn't seem right about that, I dunno. You act like if you go with Ubuntu you have to use GNOME! That’s only partially true. Like all distros I’ve seen Ubuntu actually supports the common DEs; GNOME, KDE, and Xcfe. They just got ’smart’ and named them differently based on the DE they use. Ubuntu was the first and started out with GNOME, Kubuntu is Ubuntu with a KDE desktop, and Xubuntu is Ubuntu with the Xcfe desktop, sadly this article isn’t about Ubuntu, so I’ll end that part there.

Anyway at first I also wondered why compare commercial to non-commercial distros. Than I remembered the discussions of Linux vs. MacOSX or Linux vs. Windoze. It’s almost the same thing. Even though in those they are comparing different OSes, they are still comparing a generally free OS to a completely non-free OS. So yeah, to me it started to make since to compare the two.

I’m usually pretty weary around a) Linux that acts like Windows, and b) commercial Linux distros. I haven’t had Linux for a year yet, but something just doesn’t seem right about that, I dunno.

]]> By: JB http://polishlinux.org/linux/xandros/business-vs-community-xandros-and-pclinuxos-compared/#comment-48678 JB Thu, 09 Aug 2007 05:36:57 +0000 http://polishlinux.org/linux/xandros/business-vs-community-xandros-and-pclinuxos-compared/#comment-48678 Different strokes for different folks! I'm responsible for 13 linux machines so far for friends and family and such all of which I can connect to remotely for updating/upgrading and problems. I built a couple of the machines for my clients as well. They all have Suse 10 now (which they all luv but support ends soon) and I'm looking for a good replacement for these folks B4 support ends in Oct 07. Suse 10.2? Joke! Suse lost it and it's way too heavy for what it dishes out. Ubuntu? My clients might freak out on a Gnome desktop even though faster and not as buggy. I'm just not allowed! My daughter luvs 6.06LTS cause it's the only OS-period, that the browser wont crash on her myspace and other teenagerish sites.(Very solid on her hot rodded P3 850 and fast) But suks at sharing printers.( I recommend Swiftfox and automatix2) PCLinux? Fast and pretty and buggy for me just like past Mandrake types I've tested and for me to upgrade all these folks later on without re-installs? Nah! Xandros Pro 4.1? Slow and well organized with music and pics and office.Best hardware support going! Very Get er' dun oriented. My parents luv it and easy for me to admin.I get a pain in my shoulders running xandros though,cause it's so much like windoze! Very stressful for me cause of all micro twist in it but clients know no better. My bottom line? The newbies will get Xandros and they will luv it (other than the speed) and they will get alot of work dun in a more productive/organized manner. Folks with slower machines will have to upgrade their puters to run Xandros or will have to use Gnome via ubuntu or Debian depending on network needs.. Pclinux though complete, just doesn't cut it in my situation. These folks are used to pop ups and virus and system stops and a bunch of maintenance back in their windoze days and I need to keep them all running smooth with a linux tweak to their individual needs. Some will get Xandros, some will get ubuntu,some will get debian, and some may get fedora if they don't need wine.It all depends on their needs.Thats how good all these penguins are getting now! Yes, we have choice. But I can say without a doubt, none will get Pclinux as long as I'm the man that has to maintain the system. Many of my newbie freinds have installed PC and luv it. I look at it as if they have just got some growing to do like I went through. I bet the buzz at distrowatch will wear off.. Thanx for the review.. Different strokes for different folks!
I’m responsible for 13 linux machines so far for friends and family and such all of which I can connect to remotely for updating/upgrading and problems. I built a couple of the machines for my clients as well. They all have Suse 10 now (which they all luv but support ends soon) and I’m looking for a good replacement for these folks B4 support ends in Oct 07.
Suse 10.2? Joke! Suse lost it and it’s way too heavy for what it dishes out.
Ubuntu? My clients might freak out on a Gnome desktop even though faster and not as buggy. I’m just not allowed! My daughter luvs 6.06LTS cause it’s the only OS-period, that the browser wont crash on her myspace and other teenagerish sites.(Very solid on her hot rodded P3 850 and fast) But suks at sharing printers.( I recommend Swiftfox and automatix2)
PCLinux? Fast and pretty and buggy for me just like past Mandrake types I’ve tested and for me to upgrade all these folks later on without re-installs? Nah!
Xandros Pro 4.1? Slow and well organized with music and pics and office.Best hardware support going! Very Get er’ dun oriented. My parents luv it and easy for me to admin.I get a pain in my shoulders running xandros though,cause it’s so much like windoze! Very stressful for me cause of all micro twist in it but clients know no better.
My bottom line?
The newbies will get Xandros and they will luv it (other than the speed) and they will get alot of work dun in a more productive/organized manner.
Folks with slower machines will have to upgrade their puters to run Xandros or will have to use Gnome via ubuntu or Debian depending on network needs..
Pclinux though complete, just doesn’t cut it in my situation. These folks are used to pop ups and virus and system stops and a bunch of maintenance back in their windoze days and I need to keep them all running smooth with a linux tweak to their individual needs.
Some will get Xandros, some will get ubuntu,some will get debian, and some may get fedora if they don’t need wine.It all depends on their needs.Thats how good all these penguins are getting now! Yes, we have choice. But I can say without a doubt, none will get Pclinux as long as I’m the man that has to maintain the system. Many of my newbie freinds have installed PC and luv it. I look at it as if they have just got some growing to do like I went through. I bet the buzz at distrowatch will wear off..
Thanx for the review..

]]> By: mark http://polishlinux.org/linux/xandros/business-vs-community-xandros-and-pclinuxos-compared/#comment-40717 mark Tue, 03 Jul 2007 00:23:02 +0000 http://polishlinux.org/linux/xandros/business-vs-community-xandros-and-pclinuxos-compared/#comment-40717 what bothers me about xandros is that i am not exactly sure how to pronounce the name... is it like X with seperated andros or what ?? for clarity on knowing how to say the name of the distro correctly, this is a no-brainer. what bothers me about xandros is that i am not exactly sure how to pronounce the name… is it like X with seperated andros or what ?? for clarity on knowing how to say the name of the distro correctly, this is a no-brainer.

]]> By: SirYes http://polishlinux.org/linux/xandros/business-vs-community-xandros-and-pclinuxos-compared/#comment-34627 SirYes Wed, 06 Jun 2007 10:01:11 +0000 http://polishlinux.org/linux/xandros/business-vs-community-xandros-and-pclinuxos-compared/#comment-34627 @Robert: > How about security/stability/upgradability in pclinuxos? My experience is as such: * security - Updates are there for each version and they are produced in a timely manner. This happens as long as the current release is supported. * stability - No real problems here. * upgradability - Now this may be a real problem. The best way is to create separate paritions for the system (aka "/" or root) and for user data (aka "/home"). When new version is released you can easily wipe older version and reinstall, remembering to mount right partition at "/home". I also remember when I tried to "upgrade" PCLOS .92 to .93 by changing repositories like in Debian. In effect I screwed pretty well my installation. I literally needed to remove all my KDE settings from home dir and reconfigure a whole desktop. However, this happed exactly after *I* did something stupid first. Since then I learned to check PCLinuxOS's forums *before* doing something important or tricky. In my personal POV Debian and its noble derivatives, Ubuntu and Kubuntu, win. However, I haven't compared yet PCLinuxOS 2007 with Feisty 7.04 for example. So, my arguments may be a bit flawed. @Robert:

> How about security/stability/upgradability in pclinuxos?

My experience is as such:

* security - Updates are there for each version and they are produced in a timely manner. This happens as long as the current release is supported.

* stability - No real problems here.

* upgradability - Now this may be a real problem. The best way is to create separate paritions for the system (aka “/” or root) and for user data (aka “/home”). When new version is released you can easily wipe older version and reinstall, remembering to mount right partition at “/home”.

I also remember when I tried to “upgrade” PCLOS .92 to .93 by changing repositories like in Debian. In effect I screwed pretty well my installation. I literally needed to remove all my KDE settings from home dir and reconfigure a whole desktop. However, this happed exactly after *I* did something stupid first. Since then I learned to check PCLinuxOS’s forums *before* doing something important or tricky.

In my personal POV Debian and its noble derivatives, Ubuntu and Kubuntu, win. However, I haven’t compared yet PCLinuxOS 2007 with Feisty 7.04 for example. So, my arguments may be a bit flawed.

]]> By: Robert http://polishlinux.org/linux/xandros/business-vs-community-xandros-and-pclinuxos-compared/#comment-34621 Robert Wed, 06 Jun 2007 08:32:33 +0000 http://polishlinux.org/linux/xandros/business-vs-community-xandros-and-pclinuxos-compared/#comment-34621 How about security/stability/upgradability in pclinuxos? I want to install this one on my auntie's macchine, but really would see it be upgradable very easy (a la debian?) Can anyone share some info about that? How about security/stability/upgradability in pclinuxos?

I want to install this one on my auntie’s macchine, but really would see it be upgradable very easy (a la debian?)

Can anyone share some info about that?

]]> By: Xerxes http://polishlinux.org/linux/xandros/business-vs-community-xandros-and-pclinuxos-compared/#comment-34563 Xerxes Tue, 05 Jun 2007 22:57:14 +0000 http://polishlinux.org/linux/xandros/business-vs-community-xandros-and-pclinuxos-compared/#comment-34563 This review was wierd right from the beginning, Xandros vs PCLinuxOS? You might as well compare fly fishing to worm fishing. Xandros wins in functionality on my machine, almost as good as Vista. PCLinuxOS has little problems that really irk me, so I left it on an old machine that I fool around with from time to time when I'm in the mood to try to get the fonts decent, etc.... This review was wierd right from the beginning,
Xandros vs PCLinuxOS? You might as well compare
fly fishing to worm fishing.

Xandros wins in functionality on my machine,
almost as good as Vista.

PCLinuxOS has little problems that really irk me,
so I left it on an old machine that I fool around
with from time to time when I’m in the mood to
try to get the fonts decent, etc….

]]> By: libervisco http://polishlinux.org/linux/xandros/business-vs-community-xandros-and-pclinuxos-compared/#comment-34395 libervisco Tue, 05 Jun 2007 03:15:54 +0000 http://polishlinux.org/linux/xandros/business-vs-community-xandros-and-pclinuxos-compared/#comment-34395 With the recent partnership between Xandros and Microsoft I think Xandros will become even less attractive to home users and geeks. Anyway, I'm definitely not surprised PCLinuxOS wins this. Xandros didn't seem to be too popular anyway and it's just too windowsy (which isn't something most GNU/Linux users really appreciate while Ubuntu proves that GNU/Linux doesn't have to look like Windows to attract switchers). Keep up the good work! Danijel With the recent partnership between Xandros and Microsoft I think Xandros will become even less attractive to home users and geeks.

Anyway, I’m definitely not surprised PCLinuxOS wins this. Xandros didn’t seem to be too popular anyway and it’s just too windowsy (which isn’t something most GNU/Linux users really appreciate while Ubuntu proves that GNU/Linux doesn’t have to look like Windows to attract switchers).

Keep up the good work!

Danijel

]]> By: FracturedSingleton http://polishlinux.org/linux/xandros/business-vs-community-xandros-and-pclinuxos-compared/#comment-34368 FracturedSingleton Mon, 04 Jun 2007 21:42:21 +0000 http://polishlinux.org/linux/xandros/business-vs-community-xandros-and-pclinuxos-compared/#comment-34368 It really is apples and oranges comparing these two. More likely should have compared Xandros with SLED, which with the new MS covenants would be appropriate, or as you stated PCLOS with Kubuntu. Anyway, I like PCLOS and recommend it when people ask me for a distro that just works and is "sorta kinda" like windows. When they get more Gnome support(I like switching back and forth), I will probably use them much more than I do now. Debian and Ubuntu rock as far as desktop choice goes. :) Thanks for the article, looking forward to more. It really is apples and oranges comparing these two. More likely should have compared Xandros with SLED, which with the new MS covenants would be appropriate, or as you stated PCLOS with Kubuntu.

Anyway, I like PCLOS and recommend it when people ask me for a distro that just works and is “sorta kinda” like windows. When they get more Gnome support(I like switching back and forth), I will probably use them much more than I do now. Debian and Ubuntu rock as far as desktop choice goes. :)

Thanks for the article, looking forward to more.

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