Komentarze do: The Power of Linux Console http://polishlinux.org All About GNU/Linux and BSD - reviews, comparisons, articles Sun, 05 Feb 2012 02:17:53 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 Autor: Anonymous http://polishlinux.org/why-linux/the-power-of-console/#comment-149901 Anonymous Wed, 11 Aug 2010 17:51:08 +0000 http://polishlinux.org/why-linux/the-power-of-console/#comment-149901 Seriously... MS has offered the standard POSIX core utilities for many years. (Since Windows NT, in fact.) It's now called Subsystem for Unix Applications (SUA). It works really well, and is completely free. And combined with Powershell is incredibly powerful. Please, do your research before posting such dribble. Personally, I bounce between Windows Server 2008 and Debian 5. I enjoy both of them, and they do what I need them to do. Seriously… MS has offered the standard POSIX core utilities for many years. (Since Windows NT, in fact.) It’s now called Subsystem for Unix Applications (SUA). It works really well, and is completely free. And combined with Powershell is incredibly powerful. Please, do your research before posting such dribble. Personally, I bounce between Windows Server 2008 and Debian 5. I enjoy both of them, and they do what I need them to do.

]]> Autor: Anonymous http://polishlinux.org/why-linux/the-power-of-console/#comment-132051 Anonymous Wed, 30 Dec 2009 22:51:36 +0000 http://polishlinux.org/why-linux/the-power-of-console/#comment-132051 Man and info are most useful. Both apropos and whatis accomplish is a cronjob running once a day eating 60% of your CPU. Man and info are most useful. Both apropos and whatis accomplish is a cronjob running once a day eating 60% of your CPU.

]]> Autor: Anonymous http://polishlinux.org/why-linux/the-power-of-console/#comment-132041 Anonymous Wed, 30 Dec 2009 22:50:39 +0000 http://polishlinux.org/why-linux/the-power-of-console/#comment-132041 No Windows command line (DOS or PowerShell) has even come close. I know Microsoft loves to market themselves as the greatest software developer in teh world, but they're not. And one category where Microsoft is sorely lacking in is command lines. It's like comparing a full-featured SUV with all the extras to a toddler's tricycle with mechanical problems. Microsoft has yet to make any shells that rival even simplistic POSIX shells. Batch files can't even seem to reach the same caliber of flexibility and power as a *nix shell script. And you know, comparing Linux and Windows GUIs also tends to end up being in Linux's favor. Linux has some desktop features Windows never even came close to having even in Windows 7, two which come to me off the top of my head is a virtual desktop system. Microsoft's Virtual Desktop Manager is a hack (Launching a session of explorer.exe for each desktop.), doesn't come with Windows (I think its a Power Toy download.), and hardly works at all like true virtual desktop systems (See how it was hacked together above, throw in the fact that none of the actual features of a true VDS actually go with it, such as sending windows between desktops.) Even compositing in Linux is way ahead of Windows. Both Compiz and Kwin do a whole CRAPLOAD of things Aero doesn't even know HOW to do, and in far less resource usage, to boot. No Windows command line (DOS or PowerShell) has even come close. I know Microsoft loves to market themselves as the greatest software developer in teh world, but they’re not. And one category where Microsoft is sorely lacking in is command lines.

It’s like comparing a full-featured SUV with all the extras to a toddler’s tricycle with mechanical problems. Microsoft has yet to make any shells that rival even simplistic POSIX shells. Batch files can’t even seem to reach the same caliber of flexibility and power as a *nix shell script.

And you know, comparing Linux and Windows GUIs also tends to end up being in Linux’s favor. Linux has some desktop features Windows never even came close to having even in Windows 7, two which come to me off the top of my head is a virtual desktop system. Microsoft’s Virtual Desktop Manager is a hack (Launching a session of explorer.exe for each desktop.), doesn’t come with Windows (I think its a Power Toy download.), and hardly works at all like true virtual desktop systems (See how it was hacked together above, throw in the fact that none of the actual features of a true VDS actually go with it, such as sending windows between desktops.)

Even compositing in Linux is way ahead of Windows. Both Compiz and Kwin do a whole CRAPLOAD of things Aero doesn’t even know HOW to do, and in far less resource usage, to boot.

]]> Autor: Anonymous http://polishlinux.org/why-linux/the-power-of-console/#comment-132031 Anonymous Wed, 30 Dec 2009 22:41:37 +0000 http://polishlinux.org/why-linux/the-power-of-console/#comment-132031 It is, however, almost as much of a joke as DOS when compared to an actual bona fide *nix shell. Simply because Windows does not provide even a small fraction of utilities as an actual POSIX-compliant system. On top of that is that PowerShell has a high-end .NET dependency, which I think no CLI should ever have.The result? PowerShell is just as worthless as DOS as a command line. It is, however, almost as much of a joke as DOS when compared to an actual bona fide *nix shell. Simply because Windows does not provide even a small fraction of utilities as an actual POSIX-compliant system. On top of that is that PowerShell has a high-end .NET dependency, which I think no CLI should ever have.The result? PowerShell is just as worthless as DOS as a command line.

]]> Autor: Anonymous http://polishlinux.org/why-linux/the-power-of-console/#comment-132021 Anonymous Wed, 30 Dec 2009 22:39:21 +0000 http://polishlinux.org/why-linux/the-power-of-console/#comment-132021 Not really an option. When you switch to Linux you don't have to ditch a perfectly good PC to get it like you do with OS X. This is probably one of the biggest contributing reasons why OS X is not really a worthwhile alternative to Windows. The other big reason is that Macs are simply overpriced. I could ealy build a monster number-crunching PC with the money it takes to get even some entry level Macs. don't feed me quality either. No conclusive data exists that shows that Macs are any higher quality than normal PCs, and considering PCsa re a lot more open and serviceable than Macs, PCs are a much *much* better value than a Mac. Not really an option. When you switch to Linux you don’t have to ditch a perfectly good PC to get it like you do with OS X. This is probably one of the biggest contributing reasons why OS X is not really a worthwhile alternative to Windows. The other big reason is that Macs are simply overpriced. I could ealy build a monster number-crunching PC with the money it takes to get even some entry level Macs. don’t feed me quality either. No conclusive data exists that shows that Macs are any higher quality than normal PCs, and considering PCsa re a lot more open and serviceable than Macs, PCs are a much *much* better value than a Mac.

]]> Autor: Anonymous http://polishlinux.org/why-linux/the-power-of-console/#comment-132011 Anonymous Wed, 30 Dec 2009 22:08:37 +0000 http://polishlinux.org/why-linux/the-power-of-console/#comment-132011 "What differentiates a Linux console from a Windows command line?" First off, Microsoft's are a joke (DOS, PowerShell) and Linux's are not (BASH, ZSH, CSH.) Seriously, even PowerShell (Microsoft's failed attempt to duplicate a *nix shell. Should have realized that a *nix shell is imcomplete without the standard POSIX core utilities, which, surprise surprise, Windows doesn't even remotely deliver.) pales to a real *nix shell. Microsoft has never really made a decent command line. Ever. DOS itself, despite being a full system distribution complete with built in command line, still pales to just a simple *nix shell. Automation in any Microsoft made CLI is sorely limited. Meanwhile, *nix enjoys a staple of full scripting (Batch files in DOS do *not* compare.) and the like. That's all I have to say. If any MS fanboy suggests to me that Windows has a decent command line, I'd laugh in their face. Even the most simplistic feature-drained POSIX shells still outmuscle anything Microsoft's ever made, „What differentiates a Linux console from a Windows command line?”

First off, Microsoft’s are a joke (DOS, PowerShell) and Linux’s are not (BASH, ZSH, CSH.)

Seriously, even PowerShell (Microsoft’s failed attempt to duplicate a *nix shell. Should have realized that a *nix shell is imcomplete without the standard POSIX core utilities, which, surprise surprise, Windows doesn’t even remotely deliver.) pales to a real *nix shell. Microsoft has never really made a decent command line. Ever. DOS itself, despite being a full system distribution complete with built in command line, still pales to just a simple *nix shell.

Automation in any Microsoft made CLI is sorely limited. Meanwhile, *nix enjoys a staple of full scripting (Batch files in DOS do *not* compare.) and the like.

That’s all I have to say. If any MS fanboy suggests to me that Windows has a decent command line, I’d laugh in their face. Even the most simplistic feature-drained POSIX shells still outmuscle anything Microsoft’s ever made,

]]> Autor: Andrew Patrzalek http://polishlinux.org/why-linux/the-power-of-console/#comment-128201 Andrew Patrzalek Sun, 19 Apr 2009 20:55:27 +0000 http://polishlinux.org/why-linux/the-power-of-console/#comment-128201 On a side note, the 'man', 'apropos', and 'whatis' commands are very useful in learning the vocabulary of a shell. "Unix Power Tools" by Peek, O'Reilly, Loukides is a great book. On a side note, the ‘man’, ‘apropos’, and ‘whatis’ commands are very useful in learning the vocabulary of a shell. „Unix Power Tools” by Peek, O’Reilly, Loukides is a great book.

]]> Autor: Xiong Chiamiov http://polishlinux.org/why-linux/the-power-of-console/#comment-127519 Xiong Chiamiov Wed, 24 Dec 2008 05:51:50 +0000 http://polishlinux.org/why-linux/the-power-of-console/#comment-127519 Last I checked - no. To be fair, I don't know too much about the Windows command-line, but I find it difficult to do things in it. It doesn't have any tab-completion (!), nor does it have colors. You also can't write ad-hoc scripts in it like you can with bash. Last I checked – no.

To be fair, I don’t know too much about the Windows command-line, but I find it difficult to do things in it. It doesn’t have any tab-completion (!), nor does it have colors. You also can’t write ad-hoc scripts in it like you can with bash.

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